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not long ago I have read in a rebuilder book that truck 4.6s and car 4.6s are not the same engines and made in different plants too.

"we" have a 2003 5.3 chev extended cab 1/2 ton Z-71 elec 4wd auto trans with 4.10 posi's (2200 rpm at 60 mph) to pull gooseneck horse tailer/camper. Gross weight was 13,500. Does 12 loaded, but got 14 coming back from South Dakota running 75-80 on interstate loaded, and 17 mpg truck only on the road. on 87 octane. Decent power unless you are in heavy mountains. Hard to beat. Chevy beat the GMC price. too much more money for prettier headlights.

New fords are ugly. Hey, if you hate rattles, then buy the Ford. The new Chevys are NOT small blocks they are the LS series. Do yourself a favor. You are a Chevy guy, you will never like a Ford.
4.5 fords built in winsor canada and romeo usa cylheads are different priror to the 3 valves per cyle that is the only difference inthe 2valve engines you could get ether in a given year, they ar far more modern than the gm enginesdo a comparison

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4.5 fords built in winsor canada and romeo usa cylheads are different priror to the 3 valves per cyle that is the only difference inthe 2valve engines you could get ether in a given year, they ar far more modern than the gm enginesdo a comparison
Cliff, when I find that article I will get the info to you, thanks. x
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my pop has always said just by American, he has always been a ford guy, I was always Chevy, a few years back I fell in love with a 56 ford f100, last year he fell in love with a Nissan titan (WHAT?) thats right he jumped ship, but you see he tows a 23 ft boat all over gods earth and having a good truck is important to him. after test driving ford's and Chevy's and looking over consumer rating reports he decided to check out the Nissan titans and never even looked back after test driving one, being a ford guy for 65 years all of his friends gave him a hard time until after they took a ride in it. his next door neighbor traded in his one year old ford on a the day after going for a ride in my pops. check them out if you have a chance
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We have to admit it. Those foreign made vehicles are very very good.

Have you noticed, the American assembled foreign cars are still not as well done as the actual foreign assembled.???

Sad.

Cars...... have you ever looked over a Hyundai or a Suzuki ? They make Fords and Chevys look like a bunch of 6th graders assembled them.
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Do yourself a favor and order the chev with rear drum brakes not discs. In 99 when the silverado came out GM went disks on the rear only to see major problems and numerous warranty claims especially in the road salt areas. Drum brakes work fine on the rear and will usually go 100K+ miles without any problems, rear disc brakes on vehicles around here need servicing every 20K and sometimes sooner. Replacing rotors, calipers, and pads frequently becomes very expensive fast. I know a few friends that have put over $1500 just into the rear discs to keep them working-just wrong IMO, especially considering the streetrod industry has been offering stainless brake components for years. ramble,ramble
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I rheard something about GM going back to rear drums in their lighter duty pickups too. When you consider how many people are buying pickups for cars these days those rear discs arent being used to their full design potential anyway.

I believe their 2500HD and 3500 series pickups still have rear discs but dont quote me.
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Ford vs Chevy

I'm a Chevy man but currently drive a Ford? My opinion is pretty much advice that my dear father used to give us kids, MAINTENANCE and CARE and a car/truck can last you many many years! He still drives a 65' Chevy!

So if you want the Chevy buy it, if your leaning towards Ford...go for it! JUST MAKE SURE TO NOT BEAT IT TO DEATH AND MAINTAIN THE DARN THING!
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We have to admit it. Those foreign made vehicles are very very good.

Have you noticed, the American assembled foreign cars are still not as well done as the actual foreign assembled.???

Sad.

Cars...... have you ever looked over a Hyundai or a Suzuki ? They make Fords and Chevys look like a bunch of 6th graders assembled them.
Hyundai? Really? -- That really surprises me. I haven't looked at them closely for several years ... but the early Pony's, Stellars, etc were right on par with Lada, I thought. (Point ignition, carburetor's, poor fit and finish, etc.)

Central (rural) Alberta is still a relatively "import-free" zone as you have to go to much larger cities to buy and service imports.

I totally agree that the American auto-makers REALLY need to change their whole attitude or something... It seems that the Japanese (and now you're saying Korean, right?) have the ability to pinpoint weak areas and improve on them, whereas the "Big 3" keep insisting that they are right and everyone else is wrong...

Money / Greed are to blame, perhaps? Are we more concerned with the bottom line than in the finished product? Pride of craftsmanship seems to be dissapearing, and is being replaced with "troughput" and "efficiency".

I had a similar rant in a previous thread, but I really think that we need more guys like Carroll Shelby, Vic Edelbrock, and yes ... Lee Iacoca (sp?) to name a few ... men of vision and forethought, to provide the attitudes that we need to regain some of the lost market share.
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Do yourself a favor and order the chev with rear drum brakes not discs. In 99 when the silverado came out GM went disks on the rear only to see major problems and numerous warranty claims especially in the road salt areas. Drum brakes work fine on the rear and will usually go 100K+ miles without any problems, rear disc brakes on vehicles around here need servicing every 20K and sometimes sooner. Replacing rotors, calipers, and pads frequently becomes very expensive fast. I know a few friends that have put over $1500 just into the rear discs to keep them working-just wrong IMO, especially considering the streetrod industry has been offering stainless brake components for years. ramble,ramble
Yup. I see guys spending a lot of money on ceramic / carbon metallic rear pads trying to make them last in the mud and salt environments. In this area(Central Alberta), there are a lot of oilfield trucks out mucking around in the leases and even muskeg. You hear lots of stories of trucks getting SO buried that they need to be yanked out by a Cat. Just imagine the abrasive action going on there!

I have another reply on this thread that states my opinion on the attitudes of the "Big 3" ... and this is another pretty good example of that.

We've had rear disk brakes on trucks for what ... 5 years or so at least? It was the aftermarket, not the manufacturers, was the first to come up with some tin shields in an effort to keep the road debris out of the brake pad area. These shields probably wouldn't help much in the "pull it out with a cat" scenario ... but perhaps owner/driver education and a good car wash would.

The other thing that might help is better communication / education at the sales level. Ask the owner if this is going to be a "work truck" or a "pavement queen" and have it built or sold appropriately. Of course there's always the goof that thinks he knows better, and wouldn't listen to some good advice anyway.

There is just too much "blurring of the lines" between trucks and cars going on , and the "sport truck" concept is not helping one iota. Is it just me, or does it really gag everyone else to see a brand-new pickup truck on a dealer's lot with bumble-bee stickers and wings on them?

How about diesel-powered trucks that are started, dropped into drive, and driven away belching smoke and rattling away like a Thompson machine gun?

Rant mode off.
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Is it just me, or does it really gag everyone else to see a brand-new pickup truck on a dealer's lot with bumble-bee stickers and wings on them?
Have you seen the commercial for the Dodge Ram Daytona that ends with "Shhh, it doesnt know it's a truck"...

Seems to me it looks just like the "Rumble Bee", which seems to look just like the base 5.7L Ram. What about the new Dodge Charger Daytona R/T? They're just ruining a classic name.

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How about diesel-powered trucks that are started, dropped into drive, and driven away belching smoke and rattling away like a Thompson machine gun?

Rant mode off.
I met a guy that kept complaining that his Powerstroke was hard to start but he was too impatient to wait for the little "wait" light to go out before starting it. I tried to explain to him but he didnt pay attention.
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Absolutely, we need this new generation of Carroll Shelby, etc.

Trouble is........ we got them.....doing 'stangs and Zs........ and they are doing ricers... very well in fact..

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ford vs chevy

hello like i seen someone say opinions are like well you know what but, if it was up to me i would go with a dodge with the 318 meg in it ive been driveing dogdes for most my driveing days and i have found nothing that can beat them as fare as mileage and the power is out of this would, I plow with my 1997 ram 1500 its a heavy half ton and i also use it for moveing wood and i pull a tandem trailor behind it loaded with as many logs as i can get on it and it does very well in all jobs i put it throughright now it has 160, plus miles on it and still to this day dont burn any oil as long as u keep it change around 3000 miles you wont have any problems with a dodge truck ....best of luck makeing you mind up..
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Is today retro day? this is the 2nd thread that`s 2 years old.
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Is today retro day? this is the 2nd thread that`s 2 years old.
LOL. I read the whole thing and didn't even notice the date. Since I'm here I might as well comment. I'm a Ford guy but I bought my 03 Silverado new and it's done OK by me. I bought it because of a cheaper price and I've been PO'd at Ford (mainly Bill Ford for the way he is running things) The only problem is the rear discs. They wore out at about 40,000. It's got a 4.8 and it'll pull a 3,500 pound car but if I were going to do it often I would buy a bigger engine. Oh yeah, the rearend clanks and clunks sometimes but that may be the limited slip.

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I seem to be a little late to this barn dance, I like both, however I like the older trucks for several reasons, easy to fix, can buy one fairly reasonable, poor milage for anything that has a monster motor, 454 or 460, however this is what I have personal experience with, I bought a 1996 Dodge diesel 3500 short wheel base duelie, for $5400. drove that truck for 21/2 years ran the speedometer from 97000 to 227000, and sold it for $5000- And it weighed in at around 10.000# and I modified it with big exhaust and fuel pump H.P. plate, and not only did that big sucker fly, I could haul a BOB-CAT on a trailer all over town doing work, but at times pulled a dump trailor with 6000# on it and at highway speed on the flat I got 20 mpg. So to conclude, gas ok, diesel power? no comparison what so ever
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