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Old 03-06-2006, 03:53 PM
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Frame front clip swap????

I've been away from building rods to long and I'm not up on the products available in the market place and need some guidance.
I'm working on a 49,chey Sedan/Delivery and have a 86 S/10, 2/WD P/U with the idea of breeding the front frame clip which has a 5 inches narrower wheel track then the 49. Anyone have any ideas on how to compensate the wheel tracking?
I'm also considering using the the S/10 rear by tubbing the 49 and running wide rubber but will need to widen the wheel tracking about 5 inches. Any ideas? Is there a wheel out there that may solve the rear problem MAYBE?

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i have a 48 chevy panel i am using a camrao off a 77MODEL AND IT WORKS GREAT I 'D. say your is the same
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I'm not so sure the pannel would be the same as a Sedan/delivery as the S/D used the pass. car chassis and a pannle use the 1/2 or 3/4 ton chassis maybe.

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Do some measuring of the steering box on the S10 frame. The s10's are front steer and the box may get in the way of the fenders when you put them back on. The F car subs are rear steer and the box isn't a factor for fender clearance. You may want to look for a 2nd gen Camaro/Firebird/Nova front sub to solve ALL of your problems. Another option may be one of the full framed mid-size cars. 4th gen Monte Carlos, Grand Prix, Cutlass and Buick Regals have a fairly wide stance and may work for you also.
The rear track width can be adjusted with rim offset but the front is another thing. You don't want to push the wheels outboard to far because of bearing wear and bump steer that is induced by the increased lever arm of the offset wheel. Keep the track width as close to stock as possible in front (a little wider won't hurt anything)
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My reason in choosing the S/10 is the fact that I have one a freebee. But Ya got me thinkin. just keep the ideas a comin please.

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My reason in choosing the S/10 is the fact that I have one a freebee. But Ya got me thinkin. just keep the ideas a comin please.

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I hear ya... Free is good, BUT... if it doesn't work, you will be spending more time and money to "fix" it then you would be to get something that will work right upfront and save yourself a lot of hassle and heartache... Do a lot of measuring before you start cutting.
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Gents,
Thanks for the come backs you've been very helpful.

If anyone else has some input I would be very appreciative.

Again thanks
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I have a friend that bought a 50 Ford car (should be near the same as your Chevy) with an S10 front clip in it. He seems satisfied with how it drives but unhappy with the looks. It is too narrow for those cars in my opinion. I have clipped several cars and a pickup with mid 70's Camero type clips that have worked great and are a bargain considering the end result. One thing you need to consider when measuring is the desired ride height. Some cars have plenty of tire to fender clearance at the stock ride height but it may change a lot when you lower the front end. Good luck!
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Thanks Jerry K.
I've been scratching my head and pacing the floor as what to do and with that I got wondering if the market had any products to update,such as power steering,suspension for the late 40's and early 50's Chevy?

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Old Timer,
I had the same problem with my 52 Ford F-1 pick up when I swapped out the frame to an S-10 frame. The original Ford rearend width was 60 inches, the S-10 is only 55 1/2 inches. I've swapped my rearend to an S-10 4X4 rear because it's 4 inches wider (59 1/2 inches). Both the S-10 and the S-10 4X4 rears have the same spring perch measurements (40 1/2 inches), so it's a direct swap. For the front width I used a 1 inch spacer on each front wheel. That shouldn't cause too much stress on the spindles.

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Thanks Lakota,

I hear what your saying however from the stock front I have a 4,3/4 track width difference from the S/10 front frame clip and one issue that concerns me is that the wheel will set inside the fenderwel to far and look weird.
What ya think?

Again thanks for the come back
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There's always the "down and dirty" method. Use 2" spacers or 1" spacers and wider rims.
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Hey Lakota,
Those ideas have crossed my mind however my thinking is that one would be over taxing wheel brg., steering and suspension? What ya think?
Hows that Ford P/U coming?

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i've clipped many early chevy trucks. the camaro will work fine. just a tad wide . all 70 up camaro's were front steer. the s10 works well also. i'm using one under a 46 ford sedan i'm building.
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IN the Chevy trks 47-54 I've used Camaro & G body clips(78-88). The G body's clips are approx 3" narrower,thus are the same track as the original trk.

Thus, if your current track is aroung 58" you might consider the G body clip.Here are some more pictures http://71.65.63.136/web/photos/default.aspx
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