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Old 02-17-2004, 12:59 PM
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frame paint

i'm rebuilding a jeep and am trying to figure out what to use for frame paint. the general concensis (??) seems to be to use something called por15. i can't find it in canada, has anyone used a product called "zero rust" and if so, did it work for you ??
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As far as I know POR 15 is only available through mail order. Just do a simple Yahoo or Google search and you'll find several web based suppliers.

Zero rust is a similar product but since I only have experience using POR 15 I can't vouch for how good it is. I do know that POR 15 works very well.

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POR15 website

Also, consider powder coating. Here is a shot of my gloss black '53 pickup frame I just got back from the powder coater's. It's really dusty in the picture but is very golssy when clean.



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I'm just finishing my frame with POR 15. Got mine from a paint shop in Winnipeg.Web site is www.por 15 canada. com. I think.I looked at it a while back but do remember that there are some Alberta distributers. I followed the steps,brushed it on and it is the smoothest shiny black surface you can imagine.It would be great on a Jeep that sees some mud, should be very easy to wash down.
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I got my por-15 supplies from Wpg in Canada
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It would depend on how you intend to prep the frame. POR 15 only works well on rust. If you only want to clean up the frame a little, then it might be OK. If you are going to grind or sandblast back to bare clean metal, POR 15 tends to chip and peel. In which case an epoxy primer and a chassis black topcoat is probably the best.
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It would depend on how you intend to prep the frame. POR 15 only works well on rust. If you only want to clean up the frame a little, then it might be OK. If you are going to grind or sandblast back to bare clean metal, POR 15 tends to chip and peel.
Not necessarily true. All you have to do is spray the cleaned metal with "Metal Prep" (an inexpensive etching solution POR sells specifically for that purpose) and POR will work just as well on new or clean metal as it does on rust.

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Here is another powder coating example. Everything in the photo that isn't polished aluminum or chrome is powder coated, several years old and still going strong!

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As Willys says powder coating is a great way to go. Just picked up my latest set of hemi valve covers on Monday. Tried to paint them but just couldn't get a good even wrinkle coat so had them powder coated with wrinkle black just like the 426's. I must say they sure are beautiful.

The only drawback to powder coating is the cost. It can get expensive. My valve covers were $75.

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thanks for the feed back guys. powder coat is awesome,but, unfortunatly is not an option in this case. i have,in the last couple 'o days found por15 somewhat lacally & will be giving it a try.
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I like to use equipment enamel. You can get a gallon of this stuff for $25 or so. It is designed to not need primer and be out in the elements all the time. The powder coat is the best, but will require a complete strip down of the vehicle. I have had good results with epuipment enamel. For that matter, my 57 pickup was painted 10 years ago with rustoleum elcheapo crap and is still in almost perfect condition.......

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judging by your choice of words, it isn't something id use on a prized possession
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judging by your choice of words, it isn't something id use on a prized possession
I dont use it anymore, but at the time it made sense. I was 15 building my first truck and paint was paint to me then. I like the equipment enamel now. I still can not see spending a bunch of money on frame paint for a vehicle that will not be a show type vehicle. Even then, I think I might just go with the gloss black over the flat black I like the flat black because you can patch up any chips or modification areas and never see the difference. With a gloss or semi gloss you can see the spray line. Flat just blends right in.

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The only drawback to powder coating is the cost. It can get expensive. My valve covers were $75.

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Wow! That is expensive. I got a small powdercoating setup from Harbor Freight and an old oven for nothing. I powdercoat small parts with AWESOME results. I get cheap colors (red black, blue etc) from Harbor Freight for about 8 bucks a can and I mail order the high tech flashy stuff from Eastwood @ about 20 bucks per quart. When all you are paying for is the powder, I would say it is actually cheaper than rattle can. (a pound of powder goes a long way.)

Of course, take into consideration the cost of primers and thinners that conventional paint needs...
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I will be detailing the frame of my 34 with black Imron, as soon as I decide to lift the body off.

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