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Old 04-22-2013, 11:59 AM
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Frame reinforcement

I am planning on reinforcing a frame on a 1951 willys pickup and i was wondering if anybody knew how/where to weld/bolt in a home-made crossmember. let me know. Thanks.

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I am planning on reinforcing a frame on a 1951 willys pickup and i was wondering if anybody knew how/where to weld/bolt in a home-made crossmember. let me know. Thanks.
Not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. A simple crossmember isn't going to do much reinforcing. Boxing the frame will.
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which frame.

Willys used at least 3 types of frames that I know of. I don't know if they were available with all bodies, The thin sheeet metal hat -box did have a heavy x member, and used a cross spring IFS, the u channel frame and they had a wide track heavy frame under the FC trucks. The shape -contour is the same but the lengths are different, for jeepster, wagon, pickup, Fc. I have had all four and presently have the jeepster on a 78 blazer, a lot of work ! ! there is a forum for older jeeps, and civilian models.
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If i was to box the frame, How much would i need to do, a couple feet in the front, back, and middle....i am possibly going to put a 351 Windsor from an 80's f150 into the truck, and also replacing the differentials and whatever else i need to, so i'm open to opinions of how much i would need to box to allow for the more powerful drivetrain.
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boxing.

My Fc truck ran a 350 chevy with no problems on a stock frame. If you do a lot of off road I would box the entire frame. The blazer frame is heavier than the original jeepster frame but too muck work to do another one. Check the axle width , the old trucks weren't very wide. In some states they get fussy about tires sticking out past the fenders without some kind of mud flaps or entensions. for road use.
Steering gear mounts were a problem off road, eventually you would get cracks with stock attachment. It all depends how much you use fron the F 150. the old willys never had very good brakes,
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Putting a full cage in it will do more stiffening than adding crossmembers or boxing the original frame.
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I'm in high school, so this is pretty much my first big project like this. My father owns his own auto mechanic business, so he knows pretty much all there is to know about restoration and rodding. i was just looking for a few pointers. for some reason he isn't all that interested in my current project. I was planning on replacing pretty much everything that moves on the truck, the differentials, axles, engine, tranny, transfercase, brakes, steering........ i just wasn't entirely sure about what i would've had to do for reinforcement to make the new drivetrain work. i got the truck for free from my uncle, it's been sitting for over 30 years, and the drivetrain is screwed. when i'm finished, the truck is going to be my daily driver/work truck/hunting truck/offroader, so i want it to be solid and something that i won't have to take apart and redo a few weeks down the road when the frame twists in two. any help is appreciated. thanks.
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I'm in high school, so this is pretty much my first big project like this. My father owns his own auto mechanic business, so he knows pretty much all there is to know about restoration and rodding. i was just looking for a few pointers. for some reason he isn't all that interested in my current project. I was planning on replacing pretty much everything that moves on the truck, the differentials, axles, engine, tranny, transfercase, brakes, steering........ i just wasn't entirely sure about what i would've had to do for reinforcement to make the new drivetrain work. i got the truck for free from my uncle, it's been sitting for over 30 years, and the drivetrain is screwed. when i'm finished, the truck is going to be my daily driver/work truck/hunting truck/offroader, so i want it to be solid and something that i won't have to take apart and redo a few weeks down the road when the frame twists in two. any help is appreciated. thanks.
I'd look into an early 2000 jeep cheroke that been rolled or hit.. as a donor and put the running gear and axles from it under your frame..
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Why would i ddo that? i'm much more of a ford kinda guy anyways.
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