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Old 04-07-2008, 08:56 PM
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Ok I have reread the complete post 4 times & up until I read your post no one mentioned headers until you did. You said, "You will have to run the s-10 headers, With the s-10 clip. Who's to say they HAD to run the S10 V8 convertion stuff or even headers. I guess they couldn't make up their own mtr mount kit and run (rear-dump) stock manifolds like myself, only difference is I'm running a Caddy mtr instead of a SBC & heck mine mtr is even wider, running stock manifolds & the drivers side is a center dump on top of it && it fits.

I'd also loved to know where you can up w/the "10" inside the fenders" garbage. On my own w/a 8" rim all I have is about 4" on inside clearance. I did say that was one of the drawbacks to this swap, did I not?? . I'm doing a tall spindle swap which will push a 12" rotor out about 2". I need at least 2 or so inches of clearance since my tires are tucked up inside my fenders. For myself & countless other this swap has worked fine.


And I'm sorry we're talking about 2 different trucks this poster has a 50 Chevy & you have a 57 Chevy, 2 "completely" different trucks in every way shape & form, nothing is the same other then it's brand name "Chevrolet" not even the width of the suspension.


Well first off!!! I like to let people know EVERYTHING they can look for.My very first clip,Was a 51 Chevy truck.That was 20 years ago.In the 57 Chevy frame was a car NOT a truck.I just wanted to show him the 57 frame.I have did several clip job last year.In some of them was a s-10 clip.Won't do s-10 clips any more.And MOST hot rodders DO put headers in there hot rod!!!!!!I would use a Nova in his truck because it is 1.5'' narrower then the camaro.And you don't have to start changing the spindle's to make the wheel's look right under his truck.And maybe it's a GOOD THING I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE HEADERS!!!!!! ''Someone should tell him'' GOOD NIGHT!!!

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to each their own, I did the S10 swap like countless others & am happy w/it, others may like to cut & weld a front clip on using whatever they like. And I'm sorry to disappoint you but NOT all rodders run headers. I have put together several cars/trucks & never ran headers other then on my VW Notchback. Why you may ask because of the cost & you don't really need them using a stock mtr, 2 1/2" exhaust works just fine. I guess you missed the part that the reason I'm doing a tall spindle swap, it called larger rotors & w/what I'm building I want to be safe & be able to stop, plus try & find a Nova in a junkyard nowadays. I know I haven't seen one in the 5-6 yards I go to in years. But then I use the KISS method when working on my stuff. BUT hey he should be told what other stuff may work & I will tell him NOT to use the 1963-1987 INDEPENDENT FRONT SUSPENSION UPGRADE because for the most part the tires will stick out side the fender.

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I have put a s-10 frame under a 51 suburban and it worked out great we even moved to motor back to get better handling. I have also put nova/camaro clips under many things too. Why are you guys fighting about this? The man doesn't even want to use an s-10 ,he said that in the first post. I say 2x4 square tubing and a mustangII front end. And a triangulated four link out back. Air bags all the way around. 20s and 22's and while we are at it give that truck a shave and a hair cut. JMO Tim
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to each their own, I did the S10 swap like countless others & am happy w/it, others may like to cut & weld a front clip on using whatever they like. And I'm sorry to disappoint you but NOT all rodders run headers. I have put together several cars/trucks & never ran headers other then on my VW Notchback. Why you may ask because of the cost & you don't really need them using a stock mtr, 2 1/2" exhaust works just fine. I guess you missed the part that the reason I'm doing a tall spindle swap, it called larger rotors & w/what I'm building I want to be safe & be able to stop, plus try & find a Nova in a junkyard nowadays. I know I haven't seen one in the 5-6 yards I go to in years. But then I use the KISS method when working on my stuff. BUT hey he should be told what other stuff may work & I will tell him NOT to use the 1963-1987 INDEPENDENT FRONT SUSPENSION UPGRADE because for the most part the tires will stick out side the fender.

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Heavens guys.. Just a moderator note: lets not get too excited if someone has a different idea here..Just mention the options and let the guy doing the job figure out what may be best for him in his shop...

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I don't have any problem's with anyone here.I'm just trying to let the man know what to look for when doing a clip job.The GOOD side and the BAD side of a clip job.We are here to help people,Not to mis lead anyone.And if I know a problem with the way a clip job is done, I will let someone know.I never said a s-10 wouldn't work,I said you will have problem's with the header if you would won't to run headers.Sorry truck1950 IF I messed up your thread.Just trying to help you. Sorry Sam.

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Hey Guys
I'm an good welder and fab Man"
I have 2 Old Navy 1950 Pickups ,one five window and one 3 window, I was planning on doing the S10 frame swap using EZ swap kit,on one of these truck . One has a frame that could be reworked but the other frame was cut in half and fish plated some where in it's history and showing lots of RUST and is totaly not useable.
For this 1950 3100 5 window I purchased a 2004 S10 standard cab pickup 118inch wheel base with only 83.000 miles on its 4.3 Vortex v6 with a 4 speed auto that I plan on keeping it runs sweet everything works ,The EZ swap kit calls for relocation of the stock v6 engine because of the firewall location,and a 4x4 rear end is called for to give clearance at the rear tires,up front ther is extra long wheel studs and spacers to get the right stance I'm still asking question before I jump in head over heels,just getting all my ducks in a row looks like beside the 2004 pickup these extra parts are called for the EZ Swap kit, a 4x4 rear axel, 3inch drop spindles and the correct driveshaft, the steering will be the next issue mybe a IDIDIT GM style column I would like to keep the 1950 dash clusters but run new gauges havent figered where to put the check engine Light yet.In my studies there seems to be only two people who offer this S10 frame Swap Kit, AD and EZ Swap ,the AD kits seems to have a lots more parts needed than what comes in their kit than EZ Swap kits. sounds like no one has done this swap in this forum or they just ,or they are not talking any way thats the way I'm leanning for now "lots of work ahead"
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http://www.ad-engineering.com/

http://www.e-zchassisswaps.com/



You can even get the brackets made at a local fab shop there was a thread on 67-72chevytrucks.com that had the bracket schematics for this swap, 2.5" wheel spacers run about $69 a pair,and clapped out s-10s are cheap

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Hey Thanks Brother
I'm leaning on getting the engine mounts from EZ Swap and hammering out the rest of this conversion myself I'm retired and have lots of time to fab it's cheaper"
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:12 AM
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Onedroptop, I've used the EZ-Swap kit and found it well worth the money. It has all the parts needed for the adaptation of the truck to the S-10 frame. It even includes adapters to use the original S-10 steering column and steering gear.

It really takes the guessing out of how high to mount the cab, location and height of the bed, alignment of the running boards and location of the radiator support.

And believe me, all these truck parts have to match up in front to rear measurements, but height measurements as well.

The EZ-Swap kits is very professionally manufactured kit. I won't be ashamed of having my truck on a rack with some grease jockey looking at my work.

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Ok Countilaw
You are the first person who has used this kit" I've been checking and it looks like $1600,00 after the steering kit is thrown in, I think I'll contact EZ swap tomorrow and talk with them on the do,s and dont's thank for that Information, I've done fab work before and there is a lots of trail fitting that can become a real pain in the you know what "I would like to have this baby on the streets by next spring I'll be looking for you for pointers when I start the conversion"
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Here is a pic of the kit on my S-10 frame.
These are just the cab, box and radiator support bracket on the frame. There are alot more parts in the kit. Even plates to smooth the firewall and adapt the S-10 brake booster, master cylinder and pedals to the firewall. It's really a nice kit.

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Countilaw thanks so much for the pictures looks like a clean installation.
You are right the kit does look very professional and the cab mounts are completely different than the cheesy AD kit no bare metal here ,and parts look more beefier than I imagined looks real good, also the front bumper and radiator support attaches to the frame horns should make aligning the fenders and hood a snap,
You did say the kit has a master cylinder mount for the firewall I wonder if the original brake booster can be kept. my S10 is a 2004 the truck is complete I haven’t taken it apart yet, there is a whole lot going on with the antilock brakes I stop counting the brake lines running from the manifold sitting atop the steering column they look real busy, these brakes work great now” again this kit seems to be constructed very well and no doubt it will be my choice I have two more of these Old Navy trucks to do” I have purchased a 89 frame with no engine and plan on dropping a 383 in the next conversion but as for this truck I want to keep every thing, the V6 and A/C and antilock brakes” send some more pictures when you have time
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I have a 1951 gmc on a 78 chev shortbox frame . The set up works well except that the front overall width from rotor to rotor is wider than stock. if you are lowering, you will have a real bear finding tires and rims that will fit in the fenders. Use a mustang 2 set up or get the shortened A arms from Fatman Fabricators. I wish I had, but with a lot of time looking for rims and tires, i just barely got my tires under the fenders. narrow rims and tires. works for me
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Here's a couple build threads.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=294539
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=266038

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