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Old 12-31-2006, 06:47 PM
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frames from small trucks

i would like to ad that the small dodge ram 50 frame is well made and looks good in regards to rails and design of front and front end,it does not have all the bends and changes in size etc as on the gm products. the rails in front of the front tires are pretty clean and dont need to stay any way,some cuttingand grinding leaves them looking good, my plan is to not try and copy the old frames but go for a similar look and make things look like the belong. my power is a built up chev 250 inline, i almost went for buick nailhead but they are HEAVY,do you guys see a turn away from the usual 350 engines?there are alot of diff looking other american iron like the nailheads, hope i didnt jump in too much too soon . ron.. dewey are you lisinin?

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Old 12-31-2006, 07:03 PM
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Hmmmm....perhaps you thought you were in the Hotrodders Lounge....this is the Introduction forum.
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Bad move with that frame plan, in my opinion. The thing to do would be either build your own or buy one for the body and engine you plan to use. I have seen guys try what your thinking and not only does it not look good or safe, but it took the same amount of effort that could have been used to build a really good frame. In fact, Street Rodder has been doing a home build in the last 5 issues and it looked very good.

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...dewey are you lisinin?
Yup. I'd be interested in seeing pics of the stripped frame to get a better idea what you have in mind.

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I've got a 47 ford 4dr that i started on but then we sold the old house so its on hold untill my new shop is up and complete.I took a 83 elcomino frame and chaged the center section and move the 47 body mounts to it. Have put the body on it for fit and it looks great and didnt have to invest thousands of dallors to get ps. disk brakes. independent suspention.v-8 and the whole bit.Was a peice of cake to build.
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Dewey ill get some pics in aweek or so, re; good or bad or wrong,we all have diff ideas on what is right or not cool, i say if well done and looks good to the ey e then thats it,lets not forget what roddin is.. alot of improvising , yes? As to safety the dodge ram 50 frame is boxed and almost oval, cross braces etc need to be put in , and a good welder should end up w a stronger frame than stock,Im keeping total weight below original truck weight and not using an eight but a 250- 275 ft lb tq. six -250 chev. No dought some folks will not like the front end but it is actually pretty clean looking, much better than the gm or mazda small truck design, a purist im not, if every foreign manufacturer. can produce a Harley copy, i can build a sort of hot rod pick up my way?? thanks Ron
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Perhaps I should have asked this before my first post, but what kind of hot rod are you building?
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Perhaps I should have asked this before my first post, but what kind of hot rod are you building?
I would like to know that also....usually those small truck frames are too wide for say 28-32 vehicles.
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Scratch building a Rat-(Pretty Detailed)
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This truck was built on an old Asian truck frame (I think it was a Ford Courier) It has a 250 Chevy and he drives it all over the country. Probably the best proportined rod I have seen on a mini truck frame. It is my personal opinion that I have never seen a fenderless rod built on one that looks right though. The biggest problem I see is getting the radiator where it belongs, usually way to far foeward.
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willowbilly3 asian truck pic

can anyone tell me why this THING is not way cool? who cares where the frame was made! its american iron now... r i ron
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It don't matter what anyone else thinks, if it works for you than I say Rod On!!!!!!!!!

By the way what are you planning to put on this frame and how about some pic's

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Yes...I would like to know what your going to put on that frame as well.
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In the past few days, I've managed to round up more than a couple of trucks with straight axles for cheap, or axles themselves. The only problem is brakes, and then again, they can usually be convereted over to newer hubs anyway.

And, its really the only way that looks "right" if you build something fenderless. I could care less about using boxes to rack-and-pinions...etc. I'm not a "Traditionalist" but clunky looking IFS is usually harder to make look right, than it would be to just use an actual axle.

Also, i'd say that straight axles are probably lighter than most IFS set ups.
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1928 Buick

This could have been an good looking car, but someone has butchered it onto some kind of 4-lug frame. So now, it has a mutant looking front suspension and grill shell, and an extremely long wheel base. And it was probably more work trying to get the steering and frame problems resolved (and it still looks like a mutant) than it would have been to just build a frame and go with the usual solid axle up front.
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