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Old 04-09-2004, 01:31 PM
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Frantz oil filters

Anyone here using our have used a Frantz oil filter? Since they came out with a new improved model, i'm thinking of using then on our 2 new engines.
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i don't think he does...
http://www.wefilterit.com/
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Old 04-09-2004, 06:55 PM
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Guess I'll be the guinne pig! Just bought one. I'll let ya know how it works.
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They used to be very restrictive, what have they changed?

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i once red an online report that the mobile one filters are the least restrictive AND filter out smaller particals then anything else, so thats what i use on my car ... well ... used to ... when the car was worth more then an oil change ...
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Post Frantz Oil Filtering system

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Guess I'll be the guinne pig! Just bought one. I'll let ya know how it works.

These were way ahead of their time from what I have heard , cant say I ever used one but I also have considered going that route on my next engine, Just curious if they still use a roll of tissue paper for the filtering media, thats what my old timer boss says they used originally. He said most problems came when users would not change out the roll and it would begin to disintegrate internally. Is that what they use or is it like the Oberg models with the really fine screening system? Jmark please post what this new model uses I sure want to know. Thanxs!
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Old 04-09-2004, 08:20 PM
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The frantz filter still uses the toilet paper roll inside. There is a screen at the bottom just in case a small piece gets loose, which is very unlikely since the roll fits snug inside the canister.

The filter is fed by a seperate line that is restricted by a 1/16 hole. It does not take the place of the spin on filter. The Frantz will filter down to 1/10 of a micron according to their site. Most spin on filters filter down to the 20 to 40 size. That way, you still get the regular flow to the engine, the Frantz just takes a small amount and super filters it and returns it to the pan. Within a short time, all the oil has been filtered by the Frantz while the spin on has supplied the main flow to the engine.

From what I've read, the Mobil 1 is a great filter. It uses a totally synthetic filtering media. But I don't know how "fine" of contaminants it will trap. Remember, the finer the media, the smaller the particles it will trap, but it will also plug much much faster.

My neighbor had them on his 2 Ford work vans and loved them. Changed his oil every 20,000 miles and it was still clean! Saw him do it many times. The paper roll is changed every 3000 miles and the spin on is changed when the oil is changed.

With the cost of gas going through the ceiling, i'm guessing that oil will be next. I figure if I can cut my maintance cost and improve on my engines life, I can't really loose. Plus I'm not the kind to run my old oil to Checker to turn in. Right now I have 5, 5 gallon cans of old oil and tranny fluid in my shop! LOL
I'll post again as I progress. It should be here next week.
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I don't know, but I don't know if I can justify using ****wipe as an oil filter for my car. We don't use kleenex for air filters, do we?
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Uhhh, we don't? Uh OH! LOL


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Talking Where can I get one like that!

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Uhhh, we don't? Uh OH! LOL

ROFL!!! hey I have looked at all my summit and jegs catalogs to find one of those Jmark air filters! mebbe JC whitney? too funny Jmark !!!!!
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ok ... kick me in the ash for not searching the web before posting ..... should have looked up what the frantz filter was

ive head of the TP oil filter before ... is is the ULTIMATE oil filter, ive heard claims of 100,000 on the same 5 qts of engine oil !~!~!~!

looks like ill have to ask dad to mill me a few ... lol one for the engine oil, and one for the tranny fluid ...

if you install a frantz, the only thing you might complain about is changing the roll of tp

personaly ... id mount it so its easily removable, using braided lines w/ quick disconnects .... (scrounge some up from a heavy equipment yard insteads of paying big nascar bucks) do this and you can change the tp roll in a bucket on the bench istead of pssing it down your arm on the drive

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Back in the 60's a few of us tried the Frantz filters, and I think they worked pretty good. The system worked by diverting some of the oil from the oil gallery and then returning it to the pan.It worked on Chevy and Olds engines.
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since you're pulling oil out of circulation I would probably step up to a HV pump, seems like it would be cheap insurance. I'd be interested in what the TP looks like after 5,000 miles. How much gunk it collects.

As a side note, while it may help the oil stay clean it may or may not also remove additives, also oil not only gets dirty but it breaks down over time so I still wouldn't run it the 20,000 miles someone else has unless you just don't care about replacing bearings...
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We had those filters on a 60 fire engine fleet for my many years of service. V-8's, V-12's and inline 6's too. We had the crankcase oil analyzed monthly and changed only when the analysis indicated it. The analysis was done at the station site so we had the results in about 20 minutes. Once the oil was changed then the roll in the filter was changed out also.
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