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Old 02-02-2003, 02:43 PM
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I might be in trouble. Last week we had a minus 38 degree Celsius night. My 1987 Camaro is in storage in my garage. Prestone anti-freeze. The next day I found anti-freeze on the floor under the car - not much, but some. The anti-freeze was not frozen. I am hoping that the frost plugs have popped and nothing else. Anyone have any experience with that kind of cold??? What are the odds that the engine is okay? Thank you all.

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usually if there is enuff antifreeze in solution to make it green and it isn't driven it won't freeze solid enuff to break anything, i have an old tractor that sits all winter and has little antifreeze in it, freezes but never solid or damaging. gets cold here too, last week we had a couple days with 5 degree F highs.
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that's exactly what frost plugs are for, to protect your engine. i wouldn't worry about it til spring. BTW what was your coolant/water ratio?

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Actually, the freese plugs main purpose is to support the sand cores when the engine block is cast. Since the result is a bunch of holes penetrating the engine wall, they machine them and install the cheapo press in plugs.
Unfortunately, when water freezes, it solidifies where it is so it is a lucky occurence if it pops out a freeze plug an doesn't crack the block. I have heard of blocks that have cracked when there was only a little water in them.
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Usually the first to crack is the rad, hopefully that's what happened. I run a 70/30 mixture because the recommended 50/50 mixture turns to slush at -20 C, doesn't harm the engine but it certainly can't be good for it or the fragile cooling system. I would have a good look at it now and trace the leak, maybe a hose just split.
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Let's see . . . Why in the smell would any sane person live in a place that got to -20F? The coldest I have ever been is +12F and I NEVER want to do that again.

Then again why would any sane person live in a state that has a governor who runs up an annual state deficit of $38,000,000,000?

Forget my first rant, I'll just go back to my corner and shut up.
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HA HA Willies. I used to work in a milk cooler for 11 hours a day @ avg.36*F. Steve
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hey willy, that is -20 C not F
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C, F, Z, doesn't matter. Not going there!!
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Z????? Whats that stand for? Zalactons? Steve
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Exactly! and -20Z is tooo cold for me!!!!!
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-1 Zalacton = 1 inch of shrunken flesh...HA HA HA Steve
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I went to Edmonton Alberta for New Years to visit my brother a few years back & learned my lesson. I live on the southwest BC coast where the winters are mild (no snow yet this winter) and I didn't have enough anti-freeze in my truck for the -35 weather out there and my engine started, but overheated cuz the hoses etc were frozen solid. Luckily I had Slick-50 in the oil so it didn't seize, the temperature guage just wrapped until the ice melted. I immediately upped the anti-frreze quotient bigtime. Those 87 Camaros have plastic tanks on their rads, don't they? they are famous for splitting near the crimp-seal or the seal itself leaks. First place I'ld look
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odds are you have not a thing to worry about.
it has been -35 to -43 here. i have had more
cars in the shop with antifreeze leaks this winter. with this tempature everything shrinks.
causeing hoses, rad tanks, etc to leak.
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i had the same thing happen to 350 chevy in 33 below. antifreeze had turned to slush.asked an old mechcanic about it.he said sometimes the antifreeze expands and seeks aplace to squeeze out.with no harm to anything.when it warmed up sure enough no leaks.just maybe?
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