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Old 06-04-2004, 05:49 PM
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I have a '33 Ford Coupe with a Heidt's Mustang II front end IFS. (I THINK) I was told that a Heidt's front end has their name welded on the bottom of the cross member - mine does not. But I don't think that it wouldn't make a Heidt's. Anybody know how to tell for sure?

Also, I want to add chrome/poloished A Arms and coil overs. Anybody know where I can find a detailed, step by step manual for doing this?

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Heidts has two different crossmembers. One is finished a bit better (smoother) and has a slightly higher price tag. That one has the Heidts name plate riveted on the crossmember. Their less expensive unit does not.

If you want to add tubular "A" arms check with Heidts, they have them. Many on this board, including myself, do NOT recommend the elimination of the strut rods with this type IFS. There have been several failures of Mustang II IFS systems when tubular arms were used and the strut rods eliminated.

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Thanks Centerline. I bought the car thinking it was a Heidt's front end. That was what I was told.Problem is, if I buy parts for it thinking it is a Heidt's, I may wind up with coil overs & A Arms that dony don't fit. Lots of rodders use the Heidt'd front end & other parts not from Heidt's. I suppose a diagrm with detailed measurments would reveal the truth. I need to get one somewhere. What year Mustang II did they emulate? '64 or '68?
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What year Mustang II did they emulate? '64 or '68?
The Mustang II was produced from 1974-1978. This same IFS was also installed on Pintos and Capris of that era. All Mustang II IFS aftermarket systems that are designed to use stock Mustang II upper and lower control arms will be able to use tubular control arms that are designed to fit the stock Mustang mounting locations. So.... you can use pretty much anyone's control arms as long as they are designed to fit the stock Mustang II IFS mounts.

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Oooops - sorry Centerline. I said '64-'68. I meant '74-'78. That's good info. Thanks. Do you know where I could buy a front end manual to add the coil overs & A Arms ? Been a while since I've done it.
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Not right off. I'd check with whoever you buy the control arms from. They should have some instructions you could use.

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Heidts IFS and strut rods

Does anyone have pictures of a heidts install with strut rods? I have a '69 Cougar that I already installed the crossmember and built my motor mounts in. I bolted on the lower arms to check my clearances with the motor in, and it looks like I should be fine to build my supports and gussets. I'm just wondering if there are some pictures floating around out there to see if what I see in my head would work well. Thanks for any help.

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Does anyone have pictures of a heidts install with strut rods? I have a '69 Cougar that I already installed the crossmember and built my motor mounts in. I bolted on the lower arms to check my clearances with the motor in, and it looks like I should be fine to build my supports and gussets. I'm just wondering if there are some pictures floating around out there to see if what I see in my head would work well. Thanks for any help.

-Jason
I just started fabbing some mounts to add stock T'bird strut rods to my TCI MII front end. No pix yet though sorry. In looking at Heidt's website, I see they offer weld-on tubular strut rods. Check that out to get some ideas. Just make sure to attack the struts to the frame somewhere along the same axis as the LCA pivot bolt. Very important.

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I've looked at the Heidts strut rods, but I dont like the mounting tabs for them. What I did was box further back of the crossmember boxing plates with more 1/4". I made some brackets out of some 1/4" channel that I fitted to the frame rail where I added the bracing to. I am leaving the channel a bit long past where the strut rod bolt runs through to attach tubinh that I'll run from there forward to the crossmember, and then another that runs just behind the strut rod to a little farther forward on the framerail. I am comfortable that the strength will be there, but here is my concern.. The holes in the crossmember for the lower control arm is a bit too big, but there are no spacers to take up the slack. This lets the control arm move around a bit, so it's hard to get perfect positioning of where the bracket should go. I obviously want both sides to be the same, but do the brackets have to be perfectly located on both sides, or is there some "wiggle room?" I am using Energy Suspension bushings through the complete front end. Is there enough adjustment in the strut rods and rest of the front end to compensate for things not being 100% perfect?
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