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front shocks for 23T

I have a 23T with the basic front end. No shocks or any place to mount them. Can shock tabs be added so that shocks can be added?

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Tanman....Saw your post, not a t-bucket guy but as you know you'll need shock mounts welded on the chassis and bolt on axel mounts. If you havn't already found it go to www.nationaltbucketalliance.com they have everything in the world about T-buckets at that web site....good luck, Dave
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Here is a link to some pics from the National T Bucket Alliance website showing different shock mounts:

http://www.nationaltbucketalliance.c...ocks_front.asp
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Nice.
Dave, you and home brew are right on top of it. Good examples there of total bolt-on installations with no welding required.

Tanman, first off, don't get carried away with those cheezy little short shocks that won't give you the travel you need. When I see those at a show, I just grit my teeth and move on.

Just as a for instance, let's say your front end has 3 1/2" of travel, 1 3/4 in bump and 1 3/4 in droop. You'd obviously want to choose a shock with at least 3 1/2" of travel.

With the car at ride height (sitting in the garage), mount the shocks so that you have 55% of the travel in bump and 45% in droop. Total shock travel (3.5") times .55 equals 1.925". So, you would compress the shock completely, then pull the rod out 1.925". The measurement from eye to eye would be the installed length of the shock. Make your brackets accordingly.

You can mount any shock in this manner. You do not need some special, double throwdown high-buck T-only shock. Go to the boneyard and find what you want to use, then purchase new shocks which fit that particular application, do the 55% thing and make your brackets. Done.
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front end

Ok, guess what I really need to know is if putting shocks on front of 23t will help with the front end jumping all over when hitting a bump in the road. I hit a bump the other day and ended up about 2 feet in oposite lane. Have read that possibly removing a couple of spring leafs might help?

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... what I really need to know is if putting shocks on front of 23t will help with the front end jumping all over
Yes. And dangerous without them.
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Put the shocks on before you make any other changes. Shocks are necessary for a safe car. Even if you use some friction shocks it's better than nothing.

Don't remove any leaf springs. Not yet, anyway.

It sounds like your spring is soft enough as it is, if it is causing the bumpsteer you describe.

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Making an assumption here, but if you have hairpins on the front, that multiples the bounce effect considerably. With hair pins (instead of a 4 link) the whole front axle acts like a torsion bar. As one wheel moves up, the hair pin imposes a rotational force on the axle. It's natural response is to spring back, which give you that bouncing basket ball effect. Get hydraulic shocks on there and they will control it.
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Thanks everyone for your responses and advice, just ordered the bolt on hydraulic set-up.
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measuring suspension travel

I realize this is an oooold post but I'm trying to fab the upper mounts for the MII IFS on my '36 Chevy. At what point do you measure suspension travel? Wheel center? Lower shock mount?

I guess using the 55% guideline above it may not matter.
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i take it theres not a whole lot of room to mount shocks. BILSTEIN makes a great shock that ive used on some childrens race cars. look up 600 RACING or INEX there only like 40-70$ something like that.
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