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Looks like we have two most probable alternatives: alcohol and propane. Yes, and peanut oil.
What from them can be used on fuel-injected engines?

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Old 03-13-2005, 02:33 AM
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I've seen a lot of things about biodiesel/vegetable oil lately. not sure about power with it but if you set your vehicle up right you can fill up behind any greasy spoon in the country.
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there's a company in canada , can't remember the name , that makes propane conversion kits for gasoline engines. they claim that they can make a kit for anything from a weed wacker to an old muscle car to a new car.i don't know what the kits go for , but labor to put one on was around 24 hours. what was interesting is that some one brought up about using propane in hotrods , and the spokesperson said that it works well in high performance applications because propane has something like 114 octane.
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So what are you going to build??

Whats availble to you...V8 or straight 6? What kind of car? What kind of mechanical experience do you have or have available to you? Do you have access to good books?


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give my vote to ethanol or propane...............hydrogen when it's more developed and feasable.
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[QUOTE=tm454]Whats availble to you...V8 or straight 6? What kind of car? What kind of mechanical experience do you have or have available to you? Do you have access to good books?
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I want on the whole find out what to fill up in a tank, when situation with gasoline it becomes absolutely bad. And, maybe this posts can to help someone...


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You think, normal gasoline engine can convert to hydrogen use?
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from what i understand, yes. it's very similar to running propane. i haven't done much research on it though, so my knowlege on the subject is very limited
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The local UPS (United Postal Service) has a big block Chevy for a back up generator. It runs on propane. Maybe you could find an electrical back up generator to use parts from. I don't how much power/torque it puts out, but it is enough to keep the necessities running at UPS.
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Unless I am mistaken, propane is still made from oil so it's not really a feasible alternative fuel, since the oil is eventually going to run out.
Ethanol gets my vote (preferably hydrous ethanol), Brazil, New Zealand and one of the scandinavian countries already have large scale ethanol use.
The US offers E85 for flex fuel vehicles, but it isn't a whole lot cheaper than gas (yet) and it is hard to find a station that sells it.
here - http://www.westbioenergy.org/reports/55019/55019_final.htm
is a materials compatibility list for anyone interested in doing a conversion.
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/\agreed. E85, alcohol.

no hydrogen/electric crap! How'd ya rotrod an electric car?
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/\agreed. E85, alcohol.

no hydrogen/electric crap! How'd ya rotrod an electric car?
As a last resort - thermonuclear energy cells
it's joke.
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My vote still goes to peanut or soybean oil. You can grow the stuff to make it, dont have to pump it out of the ground.
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/\agreed. E85, alcohol.

no hydrogen/electric crap! How'd ya rotrod an electric car?
A bigger electric motor.?
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My vote still goes to peanut or soybean oil. You can grow the stuff to make it, dont have to pump it out of the ground.
There is Soy Diesel, the brother in law runs the mix in his farm equipment. We were talking about it several weeks ago, I think he said that a 20% mix of soy to diesel is about as much as you can go for now. There are lubricating problems (injector pumps) when the mix is higher. Also it solidifies in cold climates
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/\agreed. E85, alcohol.

no hydrogen/electric crap! How'd ya rotrod an electric car?
Hey, why not hydrogen?
Yes, hydrogen-powered car for ¼ mile or something that does not demand fuel economy is…
But if needed long-range vehicle…

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