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Old 07-02-2007, 03:46 PM
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I think you can see from the responses above that all the applications for a full hydraulic system are LOW SPEED (ag tractors, rock crawlers, etc.). That's for a reason.
I promise to drive slow.

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This is one about the same age. I forgot to mention that there were no hydraulics for anything on this grader. It was a bunch of gearboxes mounted for each place that would be a hydraulic ram on a newer one.

There were shafts going all over and spinning away. The one in this pic has no hyds, just levers to kick the boxes into gear.

This machine was driven on roads to get to the state forests to grade. Plus the International & Deere loaders with that hyd steering were used on roads too. Top speed was 30-ish because they start bouncing on the unsprung tires.

That grader operator came back white as a ghost one day. It got bouncing so bad that one pair of rear wheels (which are mounted on box that pivots) flipped end over end ! We doubted what he said but the oil drain plugs on the side box were on top! The guys used a 644 Deere loader to lift it high enough to flip it back,,,,like 5 feet up!
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I think you can see from the responses above that all the applications for a full hydraulic system are LOW SPEED (ag tractors, rock crawlers, etc.). That's for a reason.

Oh Yeah? Well, not all big Equipment is slow!

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If crippled people can drive e-250 vans with joy sticks, you can drive a full hydraulic steer hot rod. A hydro hose blowing is no more likely than a ball joint popping out, or a tie rod cracking. Go for it!
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Don't have any experience on street systems and I have some doubts about that, but On the systems I have seen on rock trucks and such they all had electric back-up systems with a separate electrically driven pump in case the main engine driven system failed. These systems are quite reliable and if one cylinder fails due to a blown hose, etc the the other will usually maintain some control until the thing can be stopped.
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That's why they use double master cylinders...
So do I but i was revering to a hydraulic line rupture of a common kind
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Someone mentioned before about it not being legal...that's the case here in Ca., you have to have mechanical linkage throughout for the steering.

Check you laws before you proceed, be a shame to spend time and money, then have to do it over again.
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Reknown custom car hot rod builder, George Barris; built the Golden Sahara (highly customized Lincoln) in the late 1950's. I believe it had hydraulic steering. It was a single stick steering and was also remote controlled. Show car only. I don't believe it was ever driven on the street.
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Reknown custom car hot rod builder, George Barris; built the Golden Sahara (highly customized Lincoln) in the late 1950's. I believe it had hydraulic steering. It was a single stick steering and was also remote controlled. Show car only. I don't believe it was ever driven on the street.
Ive been told that BMW has one of their cars out with no column link to the box? Any Beemer fans that can prove or disprove this? Ive herd it from a couple different people at different times? Kind of a fly by wire concept I guess.
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come to think of it that drive by wire crap doesnt have mechanical linkage either does it? if not seems like a double standard

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Old 07-03-2007, 06:56 PM
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come to think of it that drive by wire crap doesnt have mechanical linkage either does it? if not seems like a double standard

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was kinda my way of thinking! Is it legal or not? Maybe, maybe not.
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I want to run full Hydraulic steering on a project I am going to start soon. Has anybody here used full Hyd. steering on a street car? I know with the crawlers it works great. Id run it through a cooler and filter for obvious reasons. Its safe as far as working without power. Any pros or cons? I imagine it might feel a little weired not having a column but im sure I can get used to that. I have heard that some BMW's are going that way? Thanks
did you get any information on your inquire about hydralic steering?
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Hydro Boost

Just installed a Hydro boost unit on my 52 Chevy wagon. Had a dual 7" vacc booster mounted. I have 4 wheel desk brakes and the vacc boost just wasn't working for the car. Went with a Chevy Astro Van Hydro boost that run's off of the power steering pump. My brakes are like night and day now.
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Full hydraulic steering.

Please let us know when you plan to drive your full hydraulic steered vehicle on the street. I would like to stay home that day. Point is, do you really want to drive this on the street with other motorists? Hydraulics are very reliable but I would not want to trust my life (or anybody's) with hydraulic steering. It sounds good in theory, but only on a slow speed vehicle, thats not on a public roadway.
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Full hydraulic steering

that is why I was asking I have gotten a lot of advise on the subject most of it much like yours. So I have decided to look for a different solution to my problem. most of the responses thought the response would be to slow and depending on road conditions less than ideal as to steady control (wobble) Thanks for your help

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