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Hi everyone....I have a very large 2 car garage, un-insulated up here in upstate New York. I want to put a heater in it so I can work on my toys. I have natural gas out there, and 220. When I got the house 8 years ago, there was an old heater (fan) in there, bigger than a refrigerator, and it leaked, could smell gas all the time, so I took it out to the curb, and went in my basement and turned off the gas. Id like to get one that hangs from the joists, but I dont know how big, or natural gas, or infareds.....The size is the main thing. Its un-insulated, no flooring on the ceiling joists, wide open up to the roof....Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks.....

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Man I just hook a central heating in my shop a couple day's ago.I asked my AC man to be on the look out for one that he replace's..He called me and said come get it... Boy that thing make's my shop very nice inside..No more working in a cold shop... The best thing about it it was ''FREE''....

mine is open too...
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Here's shot of the Modine "Hot Dawg" I have in my 2 car shop (up in the corner). I believe it is the 45,000 BTU unit and it was about $450 shipped to my door. Check out the web for the best prices.

However, if you are going to be spending any amount of time out there in cold weather, I think you are money way ahead by investing in some batt insulation and then covering the walls with some inexpensive drywall or fiberboard. For a ceiling I'd recommend the metal they sell for pole barns or metal roofs. You can see it on the ceiling in my picture.

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Here's shot of the Modine "Hot Dawg" I have in my 2 car shop (up in the corner). I believe it is the 45,000 BTU unit and it was about $450 shipped to my door. Check out the web for the best prices.

However, if you are going to be spending any amount of time out there in cold weather, I think you are money way ahead by investing in some batt insulation and then covering the walls with some inexpensive drywall or fiberboard. For a ceiling I'd recommend the metal they sell for pole barns or metal roofs. You can see it on the ceiling in my picture.

How well do they work cboy? I was think about getting one at one time..
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Insulate, gentlemen ... it's BY FAR the least expensive option.

An overhead natural gas infra-red heater is not all that expensive either to buy or to run either.

I bought a CALCANA 50,000 BTU unit for my 24 x 34 x 10 garage, and the cats and I love it!
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Just don't try to paint with a gas heater in the garage, and electrical is questionable. A heat pump outside is the way to go if you are going to have any fumes.
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Thanks for the replies guys....I been thinking about them infared ones....just odd to me how the air isnt blown out and how it still gets the whole room warm....
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infer- red , watch your paint , to close and bubble or turn color
heat pump in new york , wow , thats a good one , it most likely run on emergency heat all the time with no insulation .
metal over insulation is the trick , it works better than dry wall or osb paneling .
i know , i've had both ,in same shop . quicker to heat and cool , your not trying to get the wall thickness heated .
like water with ice cubes in it , take longer to heat .your wall material is the cubes .
my shop burnt to ground and i built it back all metal walls this time .
plus you don't get mold or holes to repair like dry - wall .
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With no insulation you are just going to throw money away. Invest in some insulation first then get a heater. If you are bare rafters/ceiling joist, even without insulation, you would benefit a little (not much though) by adding drywall to the ceiling. With the price of utilities today, I think the only way that I would try to heat an uninsulated area, would be with an airtight woodburner with a blower. Wood will be way cheaper than gas.
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How well do they work cboy?
The Modines are fine, been around a long time. They do have their disadvantages just like any other heating system. The most obvious being you can't have it on when creating a lot of fumes in the shop (painting etc.). And they probably aren't the worlds most efficient heater. I've got a couple friends up here in the north woods who have the hydronic systems built into their shop floors and they are really like them. The big disadvantage there is they must be left on nearly all the time because they take so long to get heated up.

Bottom line, I consider Modines sort of the tried and true method of heating a shop. Reliable and relatively cost efficient. But I can certainly see the advantages of other systems as well.
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The Modines are fine, been around a long time. They do have their disadvantages just like any other heating system. The most obvious being you can't have it on when creating a lot of fumes in the shop (painting etc.). And they probably aren't the worlds most efficient heater. I've got a couple friends up here in the north woods who have the hydronic systems built into their shop floors and they are really like them. The big disadvantage there is they must be left on nearly all the time because they take so long to get heated up.

Bottom line, I consider Modines sort of the tried and true method of heating a shop. Reliable and relatively cost efficient. But I can certainly see the advantages of other systems as well.

Thanks cboy....
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infer- red , watch your paint , to close and bubble or turn color
heat pump in new york , wow , thats a good one , it most likely run on emergency heat all the time with no insulation .
metal over insulation is the trick , it works better than dry wall or osb paneling .
i know , i've had both ,in same shop . quicker to heat and cool , your not trying to get the wall thickness heated .
like water with ice cubes in it , take longer to heat .your wall material is the cubes .
my shop burnt to ground and i built it back all metal walls this time .
plus you don't get mold or holes to repair like dry - wall .
do you have any pics of this? is there any worries at all using metal? prime and paint the metal etc.??
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sorry guys I found this post on an internet search and realized after I posted my reply that it is a 4 year old thread
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sorry guys I found this post on an internet search and realized after I posted my reply that it is a 4 year old thread
What's the difference? You did your homework by finding this in a search, the thread has good info to start you up, and now you have a question. I say you've done everything right. It's not like it's an old thread where the guy is looking for lug nut bearings for his 1987 Maxwell and it was posted 8 years ago. Now let's see an answer, anyone? Dan
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do you have any pics of this? is there any worries at all using metal? prime and paint the metal etc.??
There are no worries by using all metal inside the garage JMO I have metal on my celing and going remove the old dry-wall and put metal on my walls aswell.
Not only easier to heat and cool as stated but it looks so much cleaner IMO
I have seen were most new garages / shops around here have went to all metal on the inside.
You don't have to do anything to the metal just cut it to fit and screw it down you will be using the same metal that will go on the outside also, It's all the same inside out.
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