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knight hawk 10-09-2012 09:17 PM

Ghost flames
 
never done flames before, not too bad with the old enamels...so... I got this chopped/ customized '48 Dodge in flat black primer, and don't plan on painting it any color. Is it possible to paint some ghost flames on the flat black ? I'm thinkin some silver or gray flames ????? thanks

69 widetrack 10-09-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by knight hawk (Post 1597777)
never done flames before, not too bad with the old enamels...so... I got this chopped/ customized '48 Dodge in flat black primer, and don't plan on painting it any color. Is it possible to paint some ghost flames on the flat black ? I'm thinkin some silver or gray flames ????? thanks

Yes?...Anything is possible, if you want ghost flames, and you want them in gray or silver, I would probably stick with grey because it would be easily done in primer if that's what you wanted to do. Silver is possible as well, a little less ghosty but possible.

First of all grey.
You could mask out your flames, many stensils are available or you could lay them out free hand. After you have your flame pattern laid out of course scuff the area that you want ghosted. Take your primer and add a little white toner to it. Apply it and you have ghost flames.

Silver.
Same thing, prep your ghost flames. Take a minimal amount of silver paint, if your using enamel, add much more reducer than it calls for, do a test panel to see if you have the effect you want. When you have the desired effect, dust the colour onto your flames, don't get hiding or coverage or you will not have the ghost effect. You want your product to be extremely transparent and always refer back to your test panel.

Hope this Helps
Ray

JoAnnBortles 10-09-2012 10:52 PM

Widetrack gave you some very good advice but there's a part of his advice that is the most important and that is doing a test panel.
Always do test panels before you paint, especially if you are trying something new or using a product you aren't familar with. This is where painting can be fun, you get to play around, experiment, have fun with your project.
Try both the gray and silver in test panels. Make some test panels with some spray can primer. Use old fenders, or hoods or any kind of junk spare sheetmetal. Heck even a piece of plywood can work.

69 widetrack 10-09-2012 10:57 PM

Thanks JoAnn, and you are right, nothing more fun than when you try something and play with it and it works...best part is when people ask you "how did you do that".

knight hawk 10-10-2012 08:48 AM

what is the 'white toner' you referred to ?.....thanks for ther info, both of you !

69 widetrack 10-10-2012 08:58 AM

White toner is basically "white paint". A toner is what your paint supplier puts in a colour mix to give you your shade of colour. If you have a little white paint laying around, add a little to your primer to lighten it up. Just a little though, if you want that ghost effect. Remember, you can always put more in, you can't take any out after you mix it.

knight hawk 10-10-2012 11:41 AM

I got white paint, the primer, grey or the flat black, as the car is in flat black ?????

69 widetrack 10-10-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by knight hawk (Post 1597926)
I got white paint, the primer, grey or the flat black, as the car is in flat black ?????

Use the black primer, add very little white to turn it to a "lighter shade" of black. If you want ghost flames make the people look closely at the car, let them find it. Only a little white, shoot a test card, hold it up to the car and when you've got the shade you want, spray the flames.

Good Luck
Ray

knight hawk 10-10-2012 08:20 PM

thank you very much ! I can do that ! now, all I need is some free time ,, some ''honey do'' stuff, regular car stuff, I been putting off , get ready for 'winter' etc......hopefully soon.....thanks again !

69 widetrack 10-10-2012 08:26 PM

more than welcome happy to help.


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