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gloss paint to satin finish

what can i put in my gloss black acrylic enamel to make it a satin finish?

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there are different paint companies that make a "flattener".......you add it to paint and it will flatten out the sheen
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Use flattener

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what can i put in my gloss black acrylic enamel to make it a satin finish?
You can buy paint flattener to add to your paint or you can buy the paint allready satin in finish.

For the adventurus or just looking for a cheap way to do the same.
In the old days before the use of flatteners we used Laquer (MEK< Xylene)thinners instead of reducers with little/no hardeners .(contrary to popular believe hardeners slow the drying process) increasing gloss so the reverse also applies to some extent.
It's unlikely the pros or tech sheeets will give this advise but it's somewhat true

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You can buy paint flattener to add to your paint or you can buy the paint allready satin in finish.
In the old days before the use of flatteners we used Laquer (MEK< Xylene)thinners instead of reducers with no hardeners .(contrary to popular believe hardeners slow the drying process) increasing gloss so the reverse also applies to some extent.
It's unlikely the pros or tech sheeets will give this advise but it's true
Yep, putting lacquer thinner in acrylic enamel will destroy the integrity of the paint, first evidence being it has no shine, I agree!


Tab, the flattener's are the way to go, but I do have add that flattened paint is hard to maintain and damages so easily. Anything that matters to me like an exterior piece or a dash or something is going to get bc/cc with a flattened clear. The flattened clear maintains just like a gloss clear (outside of you can't buff out a scratch or something like that) while the flattened paint is REAL easy to scuff or screw up.

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Yep, putting lacquer thinner in acrylic enamel will destroy the integrity of the paint, first evidence being it has no shine, I agree!


Tab, the flattener's are the way to go, but I do have add that flattened paint is hard to maintain and damages so easily. Anything that matters to me like an exterior piece or a dash or something is going to get bc/cc with a flattened clear. The flattened clear maintains just like a gloss clear (outside of you can't buff out a scratch or something like that) while the flattened paint is REAL easy to scuff or screw up.

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One of the things one can do is to buff with a coarser compound to kill some of the shine..works for me if trying to duplicate old worn paint..

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Yeah that is the thing, there are MANY different ways, it depends on what you are after. Adding thinner, buffing, flattener or flatened clear, they are all options DEPENDING on what you are after.

How about more info Tab?

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thanks for the replies. i'm painting a 93 cb1000 motersickle tank. the bike is for sale so i'm not overly concerned with the integrity of the paint. this tank was dented so badly that i had to take a hammer to it before i could bondo it. you could never tell by looking at it though. i got the lines and curves perfect. what i might do is paint it again with the gloss then wetsand it with 800 grit.

the other side was worse. that curved line toward the front of the tank is supposed to be a nice rounded portion of the tank with no visible line.

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thanks for the replies. i'm painting a 93 cb1000 motersickle tank. the bike is for sale so i'm not overly concerned with the integrity of the paint. this tank was dented so badly that i had to take a hammer to it before i could bondo it. you could never tell by looking at it though. i got the lines and curves perfect. what i might do is paint it again with the gloss then wetsand it with 800 grit.

the other side was worse. that curved line toward the front of the tank is supposed to be a nice rounded portion of the tank with no visible line.

Looks OK
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yeah, but i have to shoot it again and wanted it to be a satin finish without re-sanding.
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yeah, but i have to shoot it again and wanted it to be a satin finish without re-sanding.
This is something that I if I wanted to do it "right", it would be BC/CC with a flattened clear, period. Any flattened paint is going to look like hell after a short time with pant legs rubbing on it.

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yeah, but this top-heavy pos will probably fall over again on me anyway. lol...
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what can i put in my gloss black acrylic enamel to make it a satin finish?
I see these guys sell a flatting paste that should work out...

http://stores.ebay.com/TheCoatingSto...subZ1553732015

They also have basecoat and pre-flattened clear if you decide to go that route.
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thanks for all the replies. if i were keeping this bike, i'd get a flattener but i'll probably just wetsand it flat and let the next owner deal with it.
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