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snakebit68 03-02-2013 02:29 PM

Gear ratio
 
The gear change will certainly inprove fuel mileage, but it will kill performance. It wont really effect the stall speed of your convertor, but you will lose low end performance. It will become a little more street friendly. I must say that 4600 stall on the street isnt recommended though. Are you sure of that stall? Its awfully steep. I run an all out race truck with a stall in that neighborhood, but wouldnt dream of running it on the street.

ap72 03-02-2013 02:30 PM

Changing gears won't save you gas and won't have a dramatic effect on trap speed. Your change is very very small. You may want to consider a cam and stall change instead.

snakebit68 03-02-2013 02:36 PM

Gear ratio
 
I agree with that. A cam change and stall change would be the best way to make it more street friendly

camaro 68 03-03-2013 08:00 AM

going from 3.73 to 3.08 affecting my stall speed
 
Hi :welcome: my post got deleted :( don't know why?? but here it is again,

I've been thinking of changing my gear from 3.73 to 3.08, but don't know if it's going to make a big difference on my stall convertor or if it still going to be happy. I would like to know if someone here did it or could tell me what to expect from this change....maybe to wide of a change maybe? Doing more and more street and less drag.

Right now it is stalling right at 4600rpm with the 3.73 with 30 inch tire and th400 behind 496ci.

Thanks
Luc's now want to save gas and going a bit slower.... :-)
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delawarebill 03-03-2013 08:16 AM

stall
 
i don't feel u will see much or any difference. your not make a major difference in ratio's.. now if u went from 572 to 308 u would see something.. but u've got a large stall...

496CHEVY3100 03-03-2013 08:25 AM

Any time you add weight ,increase torque ,not horsepower,you will change stall ,example being before stall converters were avalible at every corner we used Vega converters ,the wer rated at 2200 in 4 cyl vege when behind a good sbc probagly in 3500 range a BBC even more in a camaro.there probably wont be a Big difference but you are a gearhead you will see some that the average Joe might not ,,the 308 should work fine.:thumbup:

camaro 68 03-03-2013 11:01 AM

Thanks for your posting;)

Now it all make sense, thanks.......it will stay on the converter longer with the 3.08.

I will probably be doing the converter and gear together to make most of it.
Will have to call ATI to see how they charge for a reconfiguration?

Thanks :D
Luc.

68NovaSS 03-03-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro 68 (Post 1652878)
Hi :welcome: my post got deleted :( don't know why?? but here it is again

It wasn't deleted, look down the thread list, it was moved to the trans/differential forum, there's a redirect in place.

Moving this post as well and will merge the two.

camaro 68 03-03-2013 11:41 AM

I am wondering if changing the stall would make a bigger and better difference?
Maybe reconfigure to something like 3500rpm instead of 4600rpm maybe this would be a better choose? What do you think:confused:

Luc.

OneMoreTime 03-03-2013 01:37 PM

If you were to get in the way-back machine we made a gear change like that in search of a better launch. the taller gears meant less wheelspin and the car may leave harder. Of course with the taller gears the freeway cruise is a bit nicer. I woudl not concern my self with changing the torque convertor at all..

Sam

496CHEVY3100 03-03-2013 03:08 PM

Are you talking stalling at 4600 ,or flashing at 4600 ,either way lowering to 3500 will let it run cooler ( less slipage ) 308 will lower rpm which always helps mileage contrart to some beliefs .

camaro 68 03-03-2013 05:15 PM

thanks 496chevy,

great people on this site:cool:

the converter flash at 4600rpm. it is very good, it's a 9 inch treemaster from ATI, it is tight for the street also. I may ask them to reconfigure it to arroung 3500rpm. I think it will be even more effecient at 3500rpm.

When I complete the work (arround june), I will will let you people know the result.

Luc

496CHEVY3100 03-03-2013 05:40 PM

Lookin forward to hear from your results.

Hogg 03-04-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro 68 (Post 1653070)
thanks 496chevy,

great people on this site:cool:

the converter flash at 4600rpm. it is very good, it's a 9 inch treemaster from ATI, it is tight for the street also. I may ask them to reconfigure it to arroung 3500rpm. I think it will be even more effecient at 3500rpm.

When I complete the work (arround june), I will will let you people know the result.

Luc

What does it stall to when you hold the brake and mash the gas? or do the rear tires just spin?
Sounds like you would be happier with your loose TC and a lockup torque converter. All the fun of a loose TC and the cruise rpm just like a manual trans in high gear(1:1).
No way I would go from 3.73 to 3.08 with that loose of a TC, your TC and trans inpout shaft would almost never run at the same speed. In other words it would always be stalling, or always"on the converter".. Temps will be higher for sure with the 3.08's. City economy would be worse with the 3.08's.

peace
Hog

camaro 68 03-04-2013 01:59 PM

This is why I will probably changing both the gear and converter......otherwise like you say it will always be on the converter and just creating more heat.....:drunk: :sweat:

I think/hope there is still room to tighten the 9 inch ATI converter to stall at maybe arround 3500rpm on my car.

Luc.


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