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Old 01-15-2008, 10:32 PM
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good gun for SPI paints?

After reading the threads about what paints to try based on economy/performance, I have been worn down to a nub. all paints are great and crap depending on who you ask. I will go with SPI paint because they seem to have a lot of post here without much in the way of horror stories. I would like advice on an economy gun that works well with thier paints. Who has experiance on this one? Yea yea yea I am sure that a $500 SATA gun is great. Who in the blue h*ll can afford that for DIY hotrodding? I heard on another thread that the HF purple HVLP gun doesn't seem to like SPI paint. How about the devillbiss Startingline? This will be my first paintjob.

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I have used the HF 43430 gun with SPI and it worked fine..I have also used the astro guns and they have worked out..Big thing is gun adjustment no matter what gun you use.. On a first time job you can expect to take some time to tack off between coats and you may have a bit more sanding to do than an experienced painter..

Good luck and do not hesitate to call SpI if you have any questions..

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The devilbes 670 plus gun gets good reviews.It's about $270 or so. I have a asto evo 1.8 tip that I use for primer.It pretty good but I have to wrap teflon tape around the fluid nozzel to keep it from sputtering. You can get one with a 1.4 for about $80.I think it a Iwata copy.
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I really don't need to know why you would need to ask anyone on a forum when you have the sales managers phone number! (770) 720-6986 This is right off the SPI site,(click here) give him a call!

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I'd echo that you should give Barry a call for the best info, but I will offer that I just got done with my SPI project and I used an Astro LVLP with the 1.4 nozzle and wasam very happy with the outcome. I like you was very new to the whole deal and I'm very pleased with the results.

Good luck with your project
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I'm sure Barry will tell you any decent gun will spray his products just fine.
It's more the painter than the gun.
I got a Iwata LVLP and I love it for the SPI clear I spray,
I use to use a Astro HVLP and it did great (for a cheapie gun)
The Iwata does better, but at 4 times the price, it's not
4 times better. I can get great results with either one,
the Iwata just makes it easier.
The gun that will do best for you is the one you get used to
and have the most experience with.
They all get better the more you use them.
(with the exception of the really really cheap ones)
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The Iwata LPH 400 works great with the BC and clears, at least. I will not use it for the epoxy and 2K - it is much to good of a gun as well as having only a 1.4 tip. My personal preference for primers is a Devilbiss Finishline 3 with a 1.8 tip. The Astro is supposed to be good and I have had fair luck with a Sharpe Finex. The HF purple 43430 will do a credible job but is an air hog and the overspray will turn your painting area into what ever color you are shooting (along with the neighbor's house)

Call Barry - he knows best!!!!!

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The devilbes 670 plus gun gets good reviews.It's about $270 or so. .
I agree I have had good results with this gun
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For a cheap gun Astro makes a darn good gun IMO, I've had a few Astro's over the years and still am impressed how well they've held up. For the extra money an Iwata or Sata will cost it is worth the investment but heck yeah-you can get by with a cheapy gun. I've also got a Tuul Shed Iwata copy that works fairly well and I use it for sealer and sometimes basecoats with never a problem.
The only thing with the cheapy guns is sometimes you will get a lemon because quality control isn't very good, I've seen some models that spray really well and then see one that has a messed up pattern from the aircap holes being drilled wrong, or fluid leaks from poor machining. Make sure your supplier has a return policy.
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The HF purple 43430 will do a credible job but is an air hog and the overspray will turn your painting area into what ever color you are shooting (along with the neighbor's house)
So true, my garage is red now from my purple gun. About half way through my build I bought an Iwata400, I think it paid for itself in saved paint.
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the main thing for good results with a cheap gun is set-up and practice.
If this is your first paint job i assume you will be spraying primers first so that will give you an idea of how a gun behaves. if you are not spraying primers, i would start with some small parts to get a feel for your gun and paint. be sure you have the correct size tip and a clean consistent air supply. mix everything with the correct ratios and check the pattern of your gun before any painting. always keep the gun super clean and wear the proper protection(gloves,paint suit,respirator and eye protection) I do agree with BIGSKY that a good gun saves you money by using less paint(I use sata's for everything) as the materials cost quite a bit.
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As a note on practice, if you ask real nice, your favorite auto paint store might give you or sell real cheap, one of their mixing "mistakes". You will still have to buy reducer but in comparison, that's cheap. My color paint list price is now over $500/gallon and $140 a quart plus the reducer required. And I needed a gallon plus 2 quarts of color for my '31 A roadster as it took at least 4 coats to cover without shadows.

Not exactly a cheap hobby to get into as a newbie

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Not exactly a cheap hobby to get into as a newbie
You can say that again.

Some people don't believe me that my truck resto required $1,800 worth of paint, the stuff is EX SPEN SIVE.
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what about the DeVilbiss HVLP two gun sets that Eastwood sells for $139? OR, the DeVilbiss FinishLine FLG-3 (with 1.3, 1.5 and 1.8mm tips)?
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With the finish line you can spray primers and top coats by using the different tips, that beats buying more guns if on a budget.
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