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Old 12-13-2011, 01:03 PM
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Good trim adhesive for ca. residents

I have read all the posts on adhesives and would like to use the dap hrr contact cement but it cannot be sold or hand carried into Ca. The other liquids listed in the wiki on adhesives also are banned in Ca. Has anyone used the water based weldwood contact adhesive. Its the only one I can buy in a gallon. I can also get the Original weldwood contact in quarts. The only other choice is spray cans which get very expensive. I'm doing some door panels, kick panels and seat upholstery and I need to glue foam to vinyl, foam to cloth, foam to cardboard, vinyl to metal etc. Wish I lived somewhere else but cant move just to fix my car. Are there any Ca upholstery people on here, if so what are you using.
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:56 PM
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You need HHR ( high heat resistant) contact adhesive. Are the solvent based adhesives banned because they come in bulk? 3-M has a product that is called Fastbond 100 spray adhesive that is water (neoprene) based and is supposedly high heat resistant. It is very expensive though, and I think it only comes in 5 gallon containers. I have used Simalfa water based contact adhesive, but it's just too much trouble to use for everything, and it too only comes 5 gallons at a time. It is a lot less than the 3-M Fastbond, but still way more expensive than solvent based products. For one or two jobs, I think I'd try the aerosols. I have had good luck with this stuff in aerosol form: CLICK HERE
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I'm pretty sure the ban is because of air quality concerns so I expect some sprays are not allowed either. The one you mentioned is available here and I used it to install a headliner last week it cost $15.oo per can. I used a little over one can on a VW beetle and it seemed to hold well. So far that is my only choice. Some of the spray cans recomend using 3 coats which means it would take 2 cans per door panel so I'm looking for a lower cost option. Next time I am out of state I'll get some of the dap and smuggle it in under dark of nite. I was going to get some of the #66 stuff autotrim sells but it cannot be shipped to Ca even in an 8 oz can. There was a post on this site where someone in Ca got some Dap from Kentucky claiming the ban only applied to some counties but that company closed its doors. so I assume he was cleaning out his invetory prior to closing or was closed for selling it here. I'll check into the 3M fastbond.
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I live in Cali , and I know what you are going through. The dap product can be difficult to find, but, I have been purchasing it in 5 gallon cans. Price varies between 90 and 150. The only reason I can purchase it is because of the relationship I developed with a couple of supply houses. I would ask around pro shops, they can purchase a certain amount per year, if they don't use their allotment they will sell it to you, but you PAY for it. They are not happy with the rules either, and I really don't blame them for charging me.
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I have read all the posts on adhesives and would like to use the dap hrr contact cement but it cannot be sold or hand carried into Ca. The other liquids listed in the wiki on adhesives also are banned in Ca. Has anyone used the water based weldwood contact adhesive. Its the only one I can buy in a gallon. I can also get the Original weldwood contact in quarts. The only other choice is spray cans which get very expensive. I'm doing some door panels, kick panels and seat upholstery and I need to glue foam to vinyl, foam to cloth, foam to cardboard, vinyl to metal etc. Wish I lived somewhere else but cant move just to fix my car. Are there any Ca upholstery people on here, if so what are you using.
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Simply order on line and have it shipped. Jerry Brown won't be the wiser!
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That would be great, but suppliers know which states they can and can't send certain products to. If they get caught the supplier gets fined, so they don't risk it.
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I have no knowledge of the CARB rule you are referring to that prohibits the adhesive.
Many of the laws have clauses that allow individual usage of certain products that are otherwise banned.

Either way, I would just take a car trip to Nevada , Arizona or Oregon and buy some . Or have someone on the website send you some .

Neither hurdle is to high to stop a hot rodder.
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