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Old 02-02-2012, 11:03 AM
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grease and wax remover for spi epoxy primer???

Hey guys just a quick question.

I just got some of spi's epoxy primer and I didn't think to ask them about if I needed a certain grease and wax remover. When I got the epoxy yesterday and read through the instructions I seen that they say to use only there water born grease an wax remover.

Do I really have to use there stuff or will something else work? I wanted to prime the inside of my doors this weekend while I can still get to them, and probably do a little work to the outsides of the doors and prime them next weekend. Is there a grease and wax remover I can use to get by for the inside of the doors? If so what would work good? I plan on ordering spi's stuff to do the rest of the car.

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Old 02-02-2012, 11:12 AM
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If you get stranded you can mix rubbing alcohol and water at a 50/50 mix and add a table spoon of window cleaning ammonia like you would to make a window cleaner and put that in a spray bottle for a final wipedown..This is why I like the hot water and Dawn dish washing soap deal to get things clean in the first place..

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You should be fine with Sherwin Williams brand or PPG brand WG remover.
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All I use is SPI epoxy and I've never used a waterborn W&G ,any good quality W&G will be fine...SPI does make a very good W&G though but if I had to order it I'd probably use something else....matter of fact the epoxy and the clear are the ONLY products worth waiting for because they are that much better than the rest...
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you don't HAVE to use the waterborne, and if you speak to Barry on the phone he'd tell you that. I use a product called 'paint prep wax and grease remover' by Auto Body Master that's solvent-based. He told me to make several passes with it (I do anyways). But I've never had any issues on my panels (or my entire car) sprayed in SPI epoxy that's cleaned with my degreaser.
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Thanks guys. There is a Sherman Williams auto paint store down the road from work, so I will stop by today and see what they have. We have an account with the regular paint store so maybe I can get a discount?
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Since most times we use epoxy its on bere metal ,I'm wondering if a water born W&G would cause any flash rust problems..... has any one that used it had any trouble?????
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Since most times we use epoxy its on bere metal ,I'm wondering if a water born W&G would cause any flash rust problems..... has any one that used it had any trouble?????



I kind of wondered the same thing, but figured that if Barry recommended it, then it must be alright






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The very small amount of flash rust that might occur in a couple of hours will not hurt a thing as the SPI epoxy is a good etch primer. I just used a DuPont solvent W&G remover I had before SPI epoxy when I painted my '31 and 3 years later, the paint still hasn't fallen off

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I made the mistake of buying some W&G from the parts store (duplicolor) thinking it would work in the pinch I was in (sunday) OMG,that was the worst crap I ever used ......dont make the same mistake.it'll actually make MORE fisheyes and it takes all day to evaporate ,I had to use my blower and a towel to get it half way dry....I should have known better....
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i have had the same problems trying to use cheaper w/g removers

lower line stuff has always bit me in the ***!
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I cut out of work for a couple minutes yesterday and ran down the street to the Sherman Williams Auto Paint store and picked up a gallon from them for about $18, they had a cheaper w&g remover too but I didn't want to risk it.

The stuff I bought seemed to work good this afternoon when I used it.

I wiped it on, let is sit for a minute then wiped it off with a couple clean rags. Then I grabbed some sticks of gopher gasser and went outside and tried to kill of some moles. When I came back in and the w & g remover was dry, and the doors were clean.

(I have a neighbor that has a large lot and tons of moles and does nothing about it so every spring I fight to keep them from coming into my yard to far and tearing it up )
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