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Old 09-12-2013, 02:54 PM
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Grizzly's English Wheel

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I just got a email from Grizzly Tools and this weeks special is their small English wheel. $80. Bench mounted. It comes with 6 lower conture wheels.It says it will handle up to 16 ga steel. Now I realize this is a long ways from the tool we desire but has anyone had experience with a small unit like this? Grizzly make some pretty good tools and everything i've gotten from them has been of a fine quality. I'm considering this as a learning tool having never used a English Wheel before.
What do you guys think. Good for learning or a waste of money? Any of you more talented guys have a opinion?
And no I don't work for Grizzly in any way shape or form. Actually I only work for my wife and I'm getting tired of hearing "Oh boy, peel me a grape!"

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Old 09-12-2013, 03:25 PM
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well for $80 it seems like a no brainer. if you have the extra cash, get some use out of it and either keep it or sell it down the road. picture looks like it is a nice unit. also you can modify it later .
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cheaper than wheels ?

The price looks cheaper than buying a set of wheels. If you need a larger one you could always build a larger heavier frame.It will probably work for making patch panels. I took a class from Ron Covell a few years ago and he said the E wheel frame DOESN't have to be super ridgid- strong, that most of the time you don't want to use a lot of pressuer or you will get tire tracks in it. HF sells cheap lasers, mark a grid on your part then watch the laser to get an even tilt each pass.
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I've also had very good results from Grizzly Tools, and it looks like a decent beginner wheel for the price. I'd guess it might have a little deflection if pressed too hard, but it can easily be reinforced if it does. The arms are heavy wall box tubing, but some angle iron welded to them will reduce any flexing if it does flex at all.
I might have to think about getting one too, and see how good it is at that price!
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Lazze info

Lazze has a lot of Utube videos on metal work and several on using the E wheel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/lazzemetalshaping
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I wonder how much shipping is. Please let me know. I might consider getting that one if it's considerably cheaper with shipping than The HF one with a coupon and no shipping. I'd say that's a great place to start.
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I wonder how much shipping is. Please let me know. I might consider getting that one if it's considerably cheaper with shipping than The HF one with a coupon and no shipping. I'd say that's a great place to start.
I ordered mine a couple of days ago and I believe it's coming today! Shipping was $14 bucks so the total was about $94.00. The sale is good through 09-25. I'll let you know what I think. On the West Coast they ship out of Washington.

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I ordered mine a couple of days ago and I believe it's coming today! Shipping was $14 bucks so the total was about $94.00. The sale is good through 09-25. I'll let you know what I think. On the West Coast they ship out of Washington.

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I checked with Grizzly, and it was $13 shipping to my address, but I'm only 250 miles from Grizzly. My oldest son works for Grizzly, and I was going to have him pick it up, but as a Wa. resident it would cost him another 7% sales tax that I don't have to pay in Oregon.
I ordered one today also, so I'll see how good it works this winter!

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I am looking at one but then since I am in Wa I have to pay the extra tax so it winds up being 102.00 for me..

The main thing a larger wheel frame provides is the throat depth that allows the wheeling of larger pieces..

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Old 09-19-2013, 09:32 AM
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I am looking at one but then since I am in Wa I have to pay the extra tax so it winds up being 102.00 for me..



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Well that just sucks the big tomato!!

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I am looking at one but then since I am in Wa I have to pay the extra tax so it winds up being 102.00 for me..

The main thing a larger wheel frame provides is the throat depth that allows the wheeling of larger pieces..

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Since it's going in my cramped shop, I don't have room for a full sized wheel, or do enough shaping to use one. I'll use it for smaller patch panels, and with the 21" depth that allows working pieces over 40" by turning them around to work in from each side. Not sure how I'd even hold a sheet larger than 40" to work myself.
Even at $102 with tax, it's cheaper than what the wheels would cost that come with it, and whatever you buy you'll still pay tax in Washington.
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Mine has been delivered and looks to be just right for small panels..Will let you know how it works or just ask..

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I don't know how I missed this thread until tonight but I did. I don't see how you can go wrong for a hundred dollar bill. Can't wait to see how you guys like them. I also agree with what Timothale said Ron Covell said. The frame does not have to be as rigid as people think. Mine is way over kill but we made it in about 1990 and to be honest neither me nor my friend that did most of the work had any experience with one so we were kind of flying blind.

When you all get a chance to play with them post some pictures and show us what you are doing.

If it is in your budget, get a copy of John Glovers video on making a model A front fender with an english wheel. By the time he makes the fender he covers about any shape you can imagine. It will be a real education for you.

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I think I'm going to buy it just for the wheels,, Easy to build a bigger frame and won't break the bank to have a nice wheel in the shop... Been wanting one...
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Hi guys. Mine arrived a couple days ago and I have mastered making bent metal! it doesn't look like anything but it's curved!That being said I did have to make some adjustments to get things aligned. The saddle that holds the lower anvils was high on one side so out came the grinder and a little touch up. The anvils are now parallel to the larger upper wheel.

The large upper wheel had to much side ti side movement so a little shimming was necessary. The holes in the framework that the upper wheel attaches with are a little over sized so I'll make a couple of bushings to correct that.

All the anvil wheels and upper wheel look fine. They have sealed bearings and harden pins. It looks like Ching made the frame and Chang made the wheels. Chang is probably two years older and has more experience. Not bad for a eight year old!
I'm going to weld up a socket that the end will slide into and attach it to one of the posts in my shop. That way it will be removable and out of the way. Certainly worth $93.00!

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I think tomorrow is the last day of the sale. 9/25/13
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