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Ripped 10-15-2008 08:48 PM

Has anyone here done an Electric Parking Brake?
 
I am already tired of the barely working parking brake on the 'stang I am building.

I have all new cables, I have lubricated critical (tight cable) areas with silicone lube. No luck, barely holds on a slight incline.

I have heard one of the newer lincolins has an electric parking brake system.

Also PBR makes one.
http://www.pbr.com.au/media/documents/eParkBrochure.pdf

Have any of you done this. Feedback?

alittle1 10-15-2008 09:25 PM

If this a newly installed system, give it time to be broken in. New brake shoes have to be burnished in to remove the 'fuzz' from the linings. It also takes a while to remove the stretch out of the cables and provide a positive hookup.

HalfOunce 10-16-2008 08:01 AM

It also helps to know that drum style emergency brakes are only made to hold the vehicle from rolling forward not backward.......Unless of course you put the linings in backwards then it will only hold backward and not forward... :pimp:

red65mustang 10-16-2008 08:28 AM

not enough shoe surface area square inches is contacting the drum....
most common cause (?) is when drums have been turned/ground to the max diameter allowed and new shoes are installed = very small friction contact patch due to the two different "arcs" (drum versus shoe)

changing to "electric" won't likely fix that....

take your drums to a tires/brakes store and have the id measured, max allowed is stamped into the casting....

Ripped 10-16-2008 10:21 PM

Thanks guys for the replies.

The brake system is 100% new and adjusted properly. I spoke to a number of local mustang guys, and with the hand brake, they are problematic at best.

Lots of brakes have busted handles, because you have to reef so hard on the handle to get them to work.

Restomod guys typically use a lever from a modern car and mount it on the driveshaft hump.

I have killed my budget on the engine, so will mess with the p-brake for a while.

The other thing might be to fabricate another lever with a better mechanical advantage.

If I ever get it working, I'll let you know, ;)

ScoTFrenzel 10-17-2008 06:21 PM

Proper parking brakes, even those old 60s things, hold very well on fairly steep grades..... it is a law thing. If they don't, fix the problem. :spank:

I might be an old geezer, but electric motor operated parking brakes are just one more modern device that can fail and leave you stranded. Think what might happen if they won't release. How would you make them release if there were a motor or gear drive failure.... take off the wheel, huh?

I would seek a better leverage advantage if I were too sickly to pull a manual type parking brake.
:cool:

paulerow 10-17-2008 07:12 PM

parkinjg brake
 
I thought all FORDS came with a wooden wheel block??

carsavvycook 10-17-2008 08:34 PM

Disclaimer; I have no intentions of 'stealing' this thread what so ever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulerow
I thought all FORDS came with a wooden wheel block??

You just had to go there, didn't you. :thumbup:

You must know, that you need to TOW your CHEVY, 'To and From' with a FORD by now. :)

I love a 'bumper sticker' from a while back, and it fits!

"On a still quiet night you can hear a Chevy rust!"

Your remark about a "wooden wheel block", I will leave alone at this time, to let you ponder on my response. :thumbup:

aosborn 10-18-2008 09:37 PM

A cheap and effective parking brake lever assembly that I have used many times comes out of the early 90's Geo Metros. Easy to install and hook up, and has lots of travel...

matt167 10-18-2008 10:10 PM

actully, ford did put a warning sticker on the dash for rollaway cars.. says to set Ebrake and fully engauge in park.. I still have the 1 on my Falcon.. as I understand it was part of a recall....

of course the easy soloution to applying the E brake fully is to push the brake pedal down b4 pulling the E brake lever and it will pull much easier, and of course, the cables need adustment too.. pull the handle 1/2 way out, adjust cable until it fully engages the brakes, then release to make sure they free instantly.... also, the ford system does not activate in reverse, so keep that in mind too

ScoTFrenzel 10-19-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt167

also, the ford system does not activate in reverse, so keep that in mind too

Whzat? :nono:

matt167 10-19-2008 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoTFrenzel
Whzat? :nono:

it's not designed to activate in reverse., it might hold in reverse, but it's designed to hold in forward only..

paulerow 10-19-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt167
it's not designed to activate in reverse., it might hold in reverse, but it's designed to hold in forward only..

That's why you need 2 (two) wooden wheel chocks!!!!!!.


But here's a simple solution, on my 1930 5 window, I built a bracket off the 4-speed shifter bracket that lays flat on top of the tail shaft, pulled the emergency brake off a mid 1980's Camaro, it bolts to the floor pan by the shifter, has a nice handle and a ratchet lock, and about 14" of cable, so by running Ford truck e-brake cables foreward I built a bracket to hook it all up, that puppy really locks up. if the cables are too long which mine were considering the drive shaft is 34" long, I took a piece of 1/2" X 2" and drilled 5 holes, two on the flat above each other and one 3/8's in the center for the ebrake cable, the outer two holes are the same size as the ebrake cable from the rear drums, grind off the formed ball on the end, thread this cable through one hole, bend it into a "U" and shove it through the other hole, thus locking it to the plate, two good janks on the ebrake sets the "U" and now with about 4 inches of adjustment on the cable from the Camaro E-brake just adjust it up to work, Oh and keep the blocks ---this is still a FORD

matt167 10-19-2008 06:41 PM

there is no need to put a fancy pull handle or electric e brake to activate the e brakes.. just push the brake pedal, and apply the brakes.. they will lock tight and smooth...

Bryan59EC 10-19-2008 07:59 PM

Most of the cars/trucks that I have had---

Reverse will easily overpower the e-brake
Once in Drive----you go nowhere


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