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Has anyone tried any of these real fire painting kits?

How hard is it for an amateur to learn use the stencils and instructions to get a decent look? As in everything else I have done with my Monza I am willing to practice and learn but not to the extent that I will wast more money in time and product than if I just had it done.

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Old 08-27-2008, 07:02 PM
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In this hobby, everything takes practice, practice, and more practice. The kits do work. They make the task a little easier. After you've done it a few times, you will get to where you don't need them.

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Lavallee's first DVD was the definitive "how to" for fire.
Get IT and learn the "procedure". Stencil is not the right term. Shields is where it's at and even those are just a part of the fire job.Lot of freehand work as well.
Once you SEE how their used,the sequence of paint-kandy then you basically make your own and then let the paint fly.
Random kaos rule's with fire and too much shield work really shows. Refrence pic's of actual fire help as well and can be found with a simple Google search.
Less is more and dark to light.
Super cool paint work and a real blast to do cause there are no real "rules". It's an open pallet and just waiting for you to try.I LOVE it!
Funny thing is,You find the "artists" have a tough time with it cause they try for perfection but most of us who don't have the artist eye can spray some mean fire cause it's just random and out of controll.After all,it is FIRE.....
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I haven't played with the real flames yet but plan to, I do have a fairly good collection of real fire photographs for refrence like Mike suggests like this:
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Real Fire

I have taken everything so seriously with this car maybe it's time to have some fun. I think I will leave the car in primer for a year and play with some ideas. I have a friend that said he saw an alternative to fire where a guy used lace and lightly sprayed over it.

Thank you for the information.

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When you are trying to learn doing custom paint effects then do your toolbox or the mailbox or basically anything that you can find laying about that can be used to practice on..real fire the object and stripe it try the lace deal or anything else that comes to mind..

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Can I paint the dog too?
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I asked the cat what he thought about painting the dog and I'm not sure but I think I got the go ahead!
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I've heard and read that use of a black background is recommended or maybe even necessary for these techniques, presumably so that the kandy intermediate coats won't show up on the background color. But, has anyone ever seen any techniques that permit realistic looking flames over a red background color? Perhaps by partially masking or shielding the background areas? I'm wanting to experiment with this over the winter months, but if the technique has already been perfected, I'd rather learn how as opposed to trying to re-invent the wheel.
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I might be able to get some pics tomorrow of a car 2 houses down from me. This neighbor does showcar paint out of his home. The latest one floored me, so I stopped in to meet him.
He said he self-taught himself the flame technique 2 years ago.

This car came back yesterday for final buff. 69 Dart 440 mega built, black with new age flames. The flames even "pop out" in small spots, on doors and quarters.

I need to ask him about the clear; some new product that supposed to eliminate those micro swirl scratches you get just from washing or wiping a jet black showcar. He said it's self healing in the sun??? I'll try to get info.
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I have one of these kits and they do work. I have painted for years but wasn't that good with the air brush. After working at it for about two weeks, I pretty much have it down. I say that if you are thinking about getting one of the kits, go for it.
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Paint kits

Thank you for the info.

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Check out my project journal. Got several examples there.

Fire can be done on about anything and over most any backround color but you need to keep the paint work fairly tight to avoid overspray as said but,you can always use the base color to touch up with or clean up the work
Dogs are a little easier than cats and most are a larger pallet to work on.
Couple of "practice" items.


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You painted your wifes mixxer? Was she livid when she came back from vacation? Great work though!!!
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