Hotrodders Bulletin Board Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Home · Bulletin Board · Project Journals · Tech Article Wiki · Knowledge Base · Photo Gallery · Classifieds · Company Reviews · Calendar · T-Shirts


Thanks! Thanks Top 5 Wiki Tech Article Editors! Thanks!
Updated June 18th, 2009
#1
Crosley
520 edits
#2
Crashfarmer
401 edits
#3
Alittle1
295 edits
#4
Techinspector1
173 edits
#5
Powerrodsmike
157 edits

Read and write hotrodding how-to articles on the Crankshaft Coalition Wiki. See 100+ articles, or read The 8-sentence guide.

Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts
Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help > Transmission - Rearend
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #16  
Old 10-08-2005, 05:45 AM
357f-150's Avatar
357f-150 357f-150 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: United States of America
Posts: 151
Wiki Edits: 0

The s-10 rears IMO are underestimated big time as far as strength.


My bro had a stock open rear axle (off an 83), he beat on it with a 520tq BBC, then went to another s-10 rear (off a 90 model I believe) with 3.73 posi, not because the first broke, just because he wanted a posi and more gear and it was cheap, beat on it some more, held up fine as a daily driver for years. Neither were the "stronger" stock axles but held up fine. Don't think you'd have any trouble with a 305.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-08-2005, 01:33 PM
Triaged Triaged is offline
Member
 
Triaged's barnstarLast wiki edit: Crankshaft Coalition Wiki
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,203
Wiki Edits: 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grey1961
One other thing to think about would be a Ford Ranger Rear end preferebly from a 4.0 liter it would be a 8.8 inch and more than likely have 3.73 or 4.10 gears the newer 4liters have 210 hp and 240 ft lbs and many guys have supercharged for more than 300 hp and they still live happily... there is a butt load of them in the wrecking yards

...But they don't have the 31-spline axles and disc brakes that the Explorer rears have. They have 28-spline axles making them just as strong as the S10 rear end.

I have never figured why so many people go by the backing plate to backing plate. What I really want to know is where the wheels are going to sit. I always go by WMS-WMS (wheel mating surface).

2wd S10 rear end:
54-3/8" WMS-WMS
38-1/2" center pin to center pin.
Pinion offset 1" to drivers side (this was on my 8.5" axle and might be different on a 7.63" axle)

4wd S10 rear end:
From what I understand is 4" wider then 2wd so about 58-3/8" WMS-WMS
Spring spacing same as 2wd and I'm guessing the pinion offset is the same

Ford Explorer 8.8"
59-3/4" WMS-WMS
39-1/4" center pin to center pin (I have heard of people cramming these into S10's without moving the perches)
Pinion offset 2-3/16" to passenger side
There is a short side and long side axle shaft. You can narrow just one side and use 2 short side axle shafts. I don't recall how much this will narrow the axle but I think it will also put the pinion more in the center.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-08-2005, 02:25 PM
357f-150's Avatar
357f-150 357f-150 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: United States of America
Posts: 151
Wiki Edits: 0

The newer "stronger" S-10 rear axles can be found with disk brakes.


I agree though, the explorer 8.8" would be a good option.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-08-2005, 03:08 PM
blazin47's Avatar
blazin47 blazin47 is offline
Blazin Low
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pa
Posts: 47
Wiki Edits: 0

That 8.5 S10 rears are just about Impoassible to find. and if you do, you will pay premium
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-08-2005, 03:19 PM
357f-150's Avatar
357f-150 357f-150 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: United States of America
Posts: 151
Wiki Edits: 0

Do you want one?
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 10-08-2005, 03:23 PM
Triaged Triaged is offline
Member
 
Triaged's barnstarLast wiki edit: Crankshaft Coalition Wiki
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,203
Wiki Edits: 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin47
That 8.5 S10 rears are just about Impoassible to find. and if you do, you will pay premium

I wasn't trying to say that he should (or needs to) get the 8.5". Just that that was what the measurement came from. I guess I could traipse through the weeds in my backyard and get the measurement from the 7.5" axle it replaced...I'm just too lazy and it still might not be the same as the 7.63" axle that was recommended he use.

I payed $550 total for my 8.5" w/ disc brakes and Gov-Bomb and it only took me 2 years to find YMMV
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 10-08-2005, 05:08 PM
Mrwood's Avatar
Mrwood Mrwood is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Humboldt,Ne.
Age: 59
Posts: 323
Wiki Edits: 0

S-10 rear end

Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin47
That 8.5 S10 rears are just about Impoassible to find. and if you do, you will pay premium

There are still plenty of places to get the 8.5 rears. You just need to look around. And if they are bad you can still buy the gears to put in at a very low price. Plenty of places on the internet to get the gears.

Last edited by Mrwood : 10-08-2005 at 05:12 PM. Reason: forgot something
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-08-2005, 09:17 PM
smoke's Avatar
smoke smoke is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Portland,Or
Age: 43
Posts: 111
Wiki Edits: 0

If you can find an s10 extreme in a wrecking yard they all came from factory with posi all others unless special orderd came with open diff. If you can find a s10 blazer they came with disc brakes also.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-08-2005, 10:16 PM
Triaged Triaged is offline
Member
 
Triaged's barnstarLast wiki edit: Crankshaft Coalition Wiki
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,203
Wiki Edits: 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by smoke
If you can find an s10 extreme in a wrecking yard they all came from factory with posi all others unless special orderd came with open diff. If you can find a s10 blazer they came with disc brakes also.

No GM truck that I know of came from the factory with a Positraction® differential after 1972. '73 was the first year for the "Gov-Lock" which they still use (as well as the new Eaton electric locker on H2's and maybe H3's). The gov-lock isn't my favorite diff (far from it which is why I called the one in mine a Gov-Bomb) but at least in normal driving you will never know it is there and it might keep you from getting stuck in the mud/snow. It is a locking differential and not a limited slip.

The eXtreme's (zq8) also sometimes came with the 3rd "kicker" shock to help traction.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-09-2005, 05:29 AM
blazin47's Avatar
blazin47 blazin47 is offline
Blazin Low
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pa
Posts: 47
Wiki Edits: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrwood
There are still plenty of places to get the 8.5 rears. You just need to look around. And if they are bad you can still buy the gears to put in at a very low price. Plenty of places on the internet to get the gears.

The above is true , but not 8.5 S10 rears, mostly from an Xtreme
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-09-2005, 07:17 PM
Mrwood's Avatar
Mrwood Mrwood is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Humboldt,Ne.
Age: 59
Posts: 323
Wiki Edits: 0

S10 rear

The 8.5s were found on some 96 and up 4.3s with the 5 speed manual, and i believe the 8.5s have 30 spline axle shafts. I bought one last year and it was about $400.00 which i didnt think was to bad.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Back to top


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads for: "Has anyone used an S10 rear end in a rod?"
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
this is a saver.... GM build codes TooMany2count General Rodding Tech 23 11-21-2008 06:27 PM
Ford 9" rear end vs stock 89 chevy truck rear end jimmy p Transmission - Rearend 2 12-07-2005 02:28 AM
s-10 rear end smallblocked_S-10 Transmission - Rearend 11 06-17-2005 04:43 PM
1975 8.5 rear end camino_man Transmission - Rearend 6 09-18-2004 04:32 AM
dodge challenger in need of rear end advice. Journier Transmission - Rearend 0 05-28-2004 09:23 PM



Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 2.3.2 © 2005, Crawlability, Inc.
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:28 PM.
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2009. All Rights Reserved.