Head gasket compatibility - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Engine
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 04:51 PM
Greg T's Avatar
www.krusinklassics.net
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Escanaba, MI.
Age: 60
Posts: 1,150
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 20
Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts
Head gasket compatibility

I've got a set of Trick Flow 195s for an SBC. Is it okay to use the .015" steel shim gasket with aluminum heads? I'm finding conflicting data on this.

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 05:40 PM
automotive breath's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 891
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
To avoid electrolysis caused by the dissimilar metals, use a rubber coated steal shim.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 06:37 PM
cucumber1949's Avatar
T-Bucket, Corvette, Mustang
 
Last wiki edit: Removing stuck fasteners Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Greater Cleveland, OH
Age: 65
Posts: 507
Wiki Edits: 1

Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
I believe Trick Flo leans towards the Fel-Pro gaskets - you might want to call TF and ask them what they recommend, and ask about any installation tips. I like to hear what the manufacturer recommends if I'm not sure. Some gaskets will leave indentations on alum heads if the gasket material is harder than the aluminum.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 06:52 PM
my87Z's Avatar
Veteran/Firefighter-EMT-I CRT
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: maryland
Age: 31
Posts: 1,685
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 6
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
i'd also point out that you need to match your piston to deck clearance with your head gasket thickness to get your quench right. for optimull quench you should have a .040" clearance between the quench pad on the piston and the head. example if your piston @ TDC is .015" below the block deck (in the hole) then you should look for a gasket as close to .025" as possible (.015+.025=.040) i would not recomend running a .015" shim head gasket would be if you piston is .025" in the hole @ TDC, anything less than that, you should look for a thicker head gasket.

and call trick flow to see which head gaskets/ material they recomend. if you still have some paper work from them it should also be on that
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 09:14 PM
automotive breath's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 891
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Trick flow will recommend a composite gasket like Fel-Pro 1003
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 09:18 PM
Greg T's Avatar
www.krusinklassics.net
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Escanaba, MI.
Age: 60
Posts: 1,150
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 20
Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts
The slugs are .025 down the hole. D shaped dish and the heads are 62cc chambered. Thats why I would like to use the thin gasket. I will check with TF. Thanx!

IF they give me the OK on the rubber coated steel, does anyone have a recomendation/part number ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 09:34 PM
ericnova72's Avatar
More for Less Racer
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: S.W. Lower Michigan
Age: 47
Posts: 9,453
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 29
Thanked 484 Times in 439 Posts
Fel-Pro #1094
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 09:38 PM
Greg T's Avatar
www.krusinklassics.net
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Escanaba, MI.
Age: 60
Posts: 1,150
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 20
Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericnova72
Fel-Pro #1094

Thanx much. After looking through Trick Flows site I am now more confused than ever. I am not sure what I have. The only numbers I can find on the heads are TFS-SBC-3, under the valve cover, and stamped into the front of the head I find
H 7038 1. I cannot find any references to these numbers anywhere. I got these heads on a rebuilt engine with nearly zero miles but the previous owner didn't have any documentation of they are. Anyone have any ideas?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 09:40 PM
automotive breath's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 891
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericnova72
Fel-Pro #1094
Yes thats the ones I use, rubber coated steel shim. It will get his piston to
head clearance where it needs to be. The only other option I know is to take it
apart and deck the block.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 10:08 PM
automotive breath's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 891
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Another option would be to use a victor reinz gasket at 0.026" compressed
thickness for 0.051" piston to head. I don't have a part number but should be
available at a local parts store.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 10:13 PM
Greg T's Avatar
www.krusinklassics.net
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Escanaba, MI.
Age: 60
Posts: 1,150
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 20
Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by automotive breath
Another option would be to use a victor reinz gasket at 0.026" compressed
thickness for 0.051" piston to head. I don't have a part number but should be
available at a local parts store.

But now I need to know what the heads are so I know the chamber size. I THOUGHT I knew until I searched the Trick Flow site. Now I'm not sure.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 10:16 PM
automotive breath's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 891
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Got a local shop that can cc them?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 10:19 PM
ericnova72's Avatar
More for Less Racer
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: S.W. Lower Michigan
Age: 47
Posts: 9,453
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 29
Thanked 484 Times in 439 Posts
If they are an older model you may have to call Trick Flow to find out, they redesign and update their heads every few years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 10:31 PM
Greg T's Avatar
www.krusinklassics.net
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Escanaba, MI.
Age: 60
Posts: 1,150
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 20
Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts
I sent them an email with the numbers because I see nothing about the casting or stamped numbers on their site. You would think they could number them and list them so that one could find some info.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2010, 10:38 PM
automotive breath's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 891
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
How will you know they have never been milled, cc them is the only way to
know for sure what you have.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Engine posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cylinder Head Potpourri techinspector1 Engine 2 10-10-2010 05:06 AM
Head Gasket 101 camaro freak Engine 9 08-06-2007 09:39 AM
buy a used engine vs. replace head gasket? andrewpruitt Engine 8 03-21-2005 05:52 PM
Cracked Head or Blown Gasket? '71 rag top Engine 1 12-15-2004 10:08 PM
Head Gasket installation '67Pony Engine 3 07-27-2003 11:33 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.