Ok thanks ironpony maybe I'll get the SS ones. The price for the SS ones and the ceramic coated ones are the same, but they both say dont wrap with exhaust tape.
Seems like every headers I can find say that but IDK if that's just them protecting themselves from returns or if the exhaust wrap will actually make them rust out super early (I've never used exhaust wrap before)
I honestly dont care what they look like but dont want them to rust out with big holes in them after 5 years. Maybe I should post this question as a seperate topic...