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Headliner Glue?

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Can anyone tell me if there is a specific type of Contact Adesive to use when installing a Headliner?

Just wanna make sure I use the right stuff!!

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I have always used 3-M and it worked OK, but they probably have some better stuff out now.
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I agree with Henry on 3M
Only thing is, what kind of headliner are you putting,what kind of material?
Gluing to what kind of backing?
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If you want it to really last you should use DAP Landau top adhesive spray grade. There are some specific grades of 3M rattle can adhesives that will work, but there are some you should avoid also. 3M #77 is definitely one you should not use.

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Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me if there is a specific type of Contact Adesive to use when installing a Headliner?

Just wanna make sure I use the right stuff!!

Cheers
Nick
Are you talking about around the perimeter of an old car with a headliner suspended from bows, or a more modern headliner? I have never had good luck with any of the 3-M aerosol spray adhesives. I agree that the DAP landau top and trim adhesive is very good and less expensive than 3-M spray grade contact adhesive. If you want an aerosol can, try this stuff: http://www.yourautotrim.com/perhittrimad.html Performance high temp spray contact adhesive is very good, and inexpensive.
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I guarantee headliners for a year from when I put them in, so I don't want any problems. Landau top adhesive, about 80-90% coverage. I love it when people use the spray can stuff on their own. Certain job for me in about 6 months or so.

For bow type headliners, I use Weldwood contact adhesive (at Wally World) for perimeter work. Brushed on. I put it on very heavy and let it tack til dry. Makes a rock solid hold. I've used the spray on landau top, too, but it tends to get everywhere.
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sorry its a bow type headliner in a 70 Cougar using a factory replacment liner. The old perforated type with like a cotton scrim backing.

Welwood Contact, ill have a look at that, thanks Stitcher.
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Weldwood is made by DAP. Just make sure whatever you choose is intended for high temperature applications. Regular contact adhesive can loosen and fail in high temperatures like the inside of a car in summer.
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So do you think 90c would be good enough for a glue or should I go higher?

The reason I ask is that at work we use a Contact thats good to 90c.
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90c is almost 200 degrees Fahrenheit. If you were depending on the adhesive to support more weight it would be best to get adhesive that could withstand more, but for your application around the perimeter of your headliner that would work fine.
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That saves me some money and for that I thank you all.
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Even though I always do glue the perimeter of my bow-type headliners, in theory you don't need to. At least on the sides. On the older headliners (40s - 50s era) you have the gripper strips on either side over the front door, and then the tacking strip around the rear window that gets stapled. And on the 60s and 70s, they moved away from the gripper strips in a lot of cases and went to edge crimp welt.

Over the weekend I put a headliner in a 67 Mustang. Front and rear window removed on those to do it right. But I made sure to slather all sides with the weldwood. It was a bit chilly in the workshop where I was working, so I really should have waited longer for the glue to cure. But the guys having me do the headliner were in a hurry to go eat Pizza (go figure. lol). Like I said, I like it to be bone dry to the touch. Heat will reactivate it and make it stick. But this was still tacky, so I just put the edge crimp on to hold it.
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