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hey everyone, i'm new to the forum but i have a '81 camaro and I'm installing a new headliner and board. It's not the bow type, its just the solid hard board.It didn't have a board or material when i bought it. I got a new ABS plastic board and black cloth from National Parts Depot and they recommend to use 8080 3M spray adhesive and that 8090 would be too strong and possibly could melt the plastic. I don't know why 90 would melt it but i decided to not risk it so I got the 88 thinking it wasn't as strong as the 90 but didn't wanna risk that either lol so i finally got the 80 grade(rubber and vinyl adhesive) which was recommended and have attached the material to the board now the fun part of installing the board into my car. The board is pretty heavy, do you think the 80 grade will keep it up permanently? and do I mask off the interior and spray the roof too or just the board?

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3-M 8090 is aerosol super trim adhesive, and could have been used to attach the fabric to the ABS board. It would not have melted the ABS. 3-M 8088 (also called 8080) is also an aerosol trim adhesive, but there are no aerosols that are recommended by the manufacturers for overhead applications, only bulk spray grade contact adhesives are. As far as gluing the board to the roof, I don't think it needs to be or should be glued up, I think it should just be suspended from around the perimeter of the roof of the car. Call the place you bought it from and ask them.
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3-M 8090 is aerosol super trim adhesive, and could have been used to attach the fabric to the ABS board. It would not have melted the ABS. 3-M 8088 (also called 8080) is also an aerosol trim adhesive, but there are no aerosols that are recommended by the manufacturers for overhead applications, only bulk spray grade contact adhesives are. As far as gluing the board to the roof, I don't think it needs to be or should be glued up, I think it should just be suspended from around the perimeter of the roof of the car. Call the place you bought it from and ask them.
damn that sucks! i thought that the 88 was different than the 8080, i should of known though since they both say trim adhesive but i thought the 88 was stronger than the 80 and didn't want to risk the plastic melting or something and i thought that the 80 grade(rubber and trim adhesive) was the same as the 8088. do you think the 80 grade that i bought will still hold it up? Well they don't seem to be much help with questions lol

this is the one I used:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...beLX2H2QQ654gl

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That is different than 8088, which is also called 8080. It looks like it will work, but the only way to find out is to use it and see what happens. It is high heat resistant, so that should be a plus.
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That is different than 8088, which is also called 8080. It looks like it will work, but the only way to find out is to use it and see what happens. It is high heat resistant, so that should be a plus.
yeah too bad i didn't just go with the 8088..why are there 2 different number models for 1 product? well i hope it works. that will be a PITA to have to take it down, scrap all the glue off and put another piece of material on lol. yeah i saw that too. its resistant to over 200 degrees so hopefully it will hold.

are you sure i don't glue the board on too? i just put the trim/moldings that go around the top over the edge of the board. whats stopping the middle from bowing then?
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yeah too bad i didn't just go with the 8088..why are there 2 different number models for 1 product?
8088 used to be 8080. Why they changed the number I have no idea. Maybe when they came out with 8090 super trim adhesive they thought people would mix them up.
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8088 used to be 8080. Why they changed the number I have no idea. Maybe when they came out with 8090 super trim adhesive they thought people would mix them up.
well it seems more confusing to have 2 different numbers for the same product lol it would be easier if it just stayed 8080 that way people wouldn't think that 8088 and 8080 were different along with 8090 lol
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are you sure i don't glue the board on too? i just put the trim/moldings that go around the top over the edge of the board. whats stopping the middle from bowing then?
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are you sure i don't glue the board on too? i just put the trim/moldings that go around the top over the edge of the board. whats stopping the middle from bowing then?
That's how the newer headliner boards are done. Look at this thread, starting at post #3: CLICK HERE Does your car have a dome light? That would be one way the board would be held up, along with coat hooks, sun visors, etc.
You may have to attach the new board with screws in some places, but if you glue the board to the roof, how would you ever replace it if it got damaged? What if you made a mistake, you would have to destroy the new board to get it back out.
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