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Old 02-06-2005, 07:29 PM
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headliner work

I just recently blacked out the interior of my truck and redid the headliner. Here's the pic of what I did



It was actually fairly simple to do, but I've run into a problem. I used 3M adhesive, but it has started to fall in some places. Can someone recomend a good professional strength adhesive and a place to get it?

Also, I had trouble with the corners as the fabric would not stretch to fill the back concave sections without bunching. I managed to neatly fold it over and since it is black moleskin, the fold is nearly invisible. I'd still rather have it smooth and since I have to pull it out again to reglue I thought I'd try and get it to smooth out. Any ideas?

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Old 02-07-2005, 12:18 PM
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Not all 3M adhesive is the same. Did you use "77" or "90". The stuff in the photo is what you should use. "77" is for gluing paper and other various craft projects but won't hold up in upholstery, especially headliners.

This is what to look for,


If you do a lot of upholstery, this stuff is equal to or better than 3M 90 and quite a bit cheaper.
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Old 02-09-2005, 07:25 PM
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that's not the exact product I used. It was a 3m spray adhesive made for headliners. The strange thing is it stuck beautifly in some areas but not at all in others. I'm thinking it might possibly be the fabric texture. Where do they sell the 90 adhesive? The upholstery shop I bought my foam from only had this other genaric adhesive that I passed up.
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Home Depot usually has 3m 90 in stock. I think the last I bought there was around $13 a can so it's not as cheap as ordering it online, but if you need some and can't wait on an order you can get it there.
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Old 02-09-2005, 09:13 PM
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There are a couple reasons why the adhesive would not work in certain spots. Those areas could have been sprayed too "wet." If the glue gets too wet in one area, it will form a sort of film bubble, and will release very easily. Glue needs to be sprayed very evenly, and not too much. I think 3M requires only 60% coverage on the adhesive that i use. If the fabric touched an area and was pulled back up, it will not hold in that area. Even if the fabric touched, and wasnt even pressed in place this can happen. If you were working in the corner, stretching the material, putting it down, lifting to realign it, putting it back down, and the material is letting loose in the corners...i can almost guarantee that is why it is coming loose.
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:57 PM
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so any hints on how to smooth it out without that happening. I can get it on there smooth the first time, but there are always some wrinkles that are impossible to avoid.

Also the space right up against the foam of the flames. Should I just compress that to keep the fabric in contact with the adhesive until it can cure? Would a slightly longer tack time help to get it to stick faster and hold stronger?
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