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Old 05-11-2012, 01:00 AM
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Thanks there fellas...well I had tons of summit bucks&sone gift cards...so got everything I needed for 100 bucks&did some body work for a guy for 200 so Im ahead now.Ive been teaching myself how to weld&fab Im starting to not walk but run away from motors&trannys.Im really liking the bodywork.Well that being said sanded her down today didnt go bare metal just roughed it up&then smoothed it out some.Shot the primer &came out great!Didn't even have to adjust the gun.Im gonna shoot about 3 more coats.Then gonna hit it with the ss light charcoal metallic,should be able to cover all I need in one pass because from my rockers up a few inches where the molding used to be Im hitting it with bed liner.Found out the smart a#$ who owned the truck before be used bondo to fill a hole about the size of a resses cup...no patch panel nada.So I cut it out got a patch panel in was able to get it welded in&smooth without any filler.Ill post pix when done.
Itll be a few days gonna do about 4 coats Im thinking&putting a new lift kit on with a new set of wheels&tires.I think Ill have enough paint left to spray my 83 monte carlo.Im thrilled.Let's hope the ss goes good.Slow&steady

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Old 05-11-2012, 10:01 AM
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Thanks there fellas...well I had tons of summit bucks&sone gift cards...so got everything I needed for 100 bucks&did some body work for a guy for 200 so Im ahead now.Ive been teaching myself how to weld&fab Im starting to not walk but run away from motors&trannys.Im really liking the bodywork.Well that being said sanded her down today didnt go bare metal just roughed it up&then smoothed it out some.Shot the primer &came out great!Didn't even have to adjust the gun.Im gonna shoot about 3 more coats.Then gonna hit it with the ss light charcoal metallic,should be able to cover all I need in one pass because from my rockers up a few inches where the molding used to be Im hitting it with bed liner.Found out the smart a#$ who owned the truck before be used bondo to fill a hole about the size of a resses cup...no patch panel nada.So I cut it out got a patch panel in was able to get it welded in&smooth without any filler.Ill post pix when done.
Itll be a few days gonna do about 4 coats Im thinking&putting a new lift kit on with a new set of wheels&tires.I think Ill have enough paint left to spray my 83 monte carlo.Im thrilled.Let's hope the ss goes good.Slow&steady
Be sure to post pics when it is done.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:55 PM
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Ok so...I forgot to mention yes Ive learned that the prep work is the hardest part.I hated masking&taping everything off the most.Well only shot one more coat of primer&man when it goes on if you didnt sand something right you notice it!Well heres the bad news...While finishing up my 2nd coat of primer some gumed up goo came out so I must not of reduced it enough.,now after the primer dried I hand sandes real softly with a 1000 grit&very easily it got nice&smooth.Now...I wont be able to do that with the ss metallic will I?Also when I do my hood should I go left to right or up &down?Also what chemical do you prefer to clean your gun&remove paint thats got somewhere it shouldnt of?
The cheapo mask I bought failed me anybody got a link to where I can pick up a good one.I ended up high as a kite.And any tips for spraying this ss tomorrow.Im getting nervous.
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:44 PM
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Stop Everything Now !!!!!!

Hey there. DO NOT take chances with those paint fumes ! They can poison you for life ! I know only too well. If you can smell the paint, you have got the wrong respirator. I bought an organic vapors respirator from Harbor Freight that works well. It must be kept in a sealed bag when it is not in use. The cartridge breaks down from exposure. And I repeat : IF YOU CAN SMELL THE PAINT WITH THE RESPIRATOR ON, STOP IMMEDIATELY ! We are talking life and death here ! Make sure that the respirator that you buy is FOR ORGANIC VAPORS .

Once you assure me that you have the correct respirator, I will try to answer your other questions. As of right now, I sure hope that this project is on hold. I'll check back in the morning.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:13 PM
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Yeah my neighbor loaned me his its made by 3m
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:26 PM
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Yeah my neighbor loaned me his its made by 3m

That's good. But if you can smell the paint, it needs new cartridges before you can use it for painting. Must be for organic vapors.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:14 AM
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Yeah it has new filters he paints dumpsters for a living so I think itll be fine...so now what?
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:35 AM
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Ok so...I forgot to mention yes Ive learned that the prep work is the hardest part.I hated masking&taping everything off the most.Well only shot one more coat of primer&man when it goes on if you didnt sand something right you notice it!Well heres the bad news...While finishing up my 2nd coat of primer some gumed up goo came out so I must not of reduced it enough.,now after the primer dried I hand sandes real softly with a 1000 grit&very easily it got nice&smooth.Now...I wont be able to do that with the ss metallic will I?Also when I do my hood should I go left to right or up &down?Also what chemical do you prefer to clean your gun&remove paint thats got somewhere it shouldnt of?
The cheapo mask I bought failed me anybody got a link to where I can pick up a good one.I ended up high as a kite.And any tips for spraying this ss tomorrow.Im getting nervous.
Now to answer your questions. You will be surprised how much elbow grease it will take to color sand the urethane. Get anautomotive sanding sponge from Sherwin Williams or NAPA or whoever sells them in your area.
Sand with 1500 grit and then with 2000 grit. The trick is to wet sand and then dry it and look for any bright spots. You have to sand with the 1500 until it all looks satin with no bright spots, then lightly sand with the 2000. Then you have to buff with compound and then finishing compound and lastly a good polymer polish. If you do this, it will have a mirror finish. Keep in mind that this process will take a good 8 to 10 hrs on your truck. If you're not that picky, spray it and call it good.
As for cleaning the gun. You can use a slow drying lacquer thinner or acetone. But it is best to use the thinner that is recommended for the paint being use. Also, the acetone will work in most cases in getting paint off before it dries. After the urethane dries, good luck. I don't know of anything short of paint stripper that will touch it.

I hope that this helps. Big Al
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:17 AM
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You are getting some real good advise here about painting and about safety. Take this advise and take your time. I painted my truck myself and had never painted anything bigger than what a rattle can could cover. The prep is the most work followed by the color sanding and buffing. Like Big Al said paint will not cover poor prep work and that is the best advise you will ever get about bodywork. Your young so listen to the guys who have been around a while. That way you will get to be around for a while to enjoy your projects to come.
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Old 05-12-2012, 04:54 PM
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Ok...no tiger stripes but a few other issues. The gun started leaking while doing the first coat on the hood...no biggie I got a few blemishes on my 2nd coat so now Im trying to cover them up with extra coats.Im on.my fourth&about to spray my fifth.Speaking of fifth I think it'll look good from 5 ft away.All in all good learning experince.
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:37 PM
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Ok...one more question whats the max amount of coats I can apply?
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:52 AM
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Ok...one more question whats the max amount of coats I can apply?
I have never applied more than 3, so I don't really know. Hmmm, maybe someone else can chime in on this. One thought is, if you get a paint chip in the future, it'll be a deep one, with that many coats. Personally, I would have let the paint cure for a couple of days and sanded out the blemishes with 320 and 600 and then recoated with just one or two coats.
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When I painted my truck with base coat/clear coat a guy at PPG told me to go 3 and 3. They also tell you to use enough paint to cover the material. One guy told me if your doing a really nice paint job for a show car to do three coats of clear then sand it with 1000,1500,2000,2500 and finally 3000. Then give it a final coat of clear. Hope this helps you. As you can figure out by now it's all in the PREP work. My truck was the first thing I ever painted. I just bought some books and got a lot of advise from my local paint supply shop. Again it's all in the preperation and paying attention to the small details. Do that and you will be happy.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:41 PM
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HELP!...haha no not that bad but...so Ive done the bedliner&Ive saved the roof for last now I shoot the roof&I went ahead &shot the hood again because I had a couple of spots I had to fix.
I feel I did a great job for a first time deal BUT now heres my problem the roof&hood both&I dont know of you would call it tiger stripe lr something else but you can vaguley see lines it looks as if some areas are shinier &some darker.Im.short&I have short reach couldnt do the hood or roof complety in one pass did one side&then to next.I dis left to right&then up&down.Now my hood didnt have this issue before.Ive got just barley enough paint left so Ive got one shot to fix it so...Im guessing stanf back a few feet&mist...thenbre mist etc.Any pointers.Turn air up?Down?I did great on the rest no orange peel only runs I got was really just because I made a mistake with set up.
Im loving painting!Im gonna start painting every thing I can get my hands on till Im good.SO GLAD I TOOK THE PLUNGE&SPRAYED HER.For 100 in paint,a hf gun&only a couple spots that I now know how to avoid coming out bad Im.stoked...so ready to put m wrenched up&focus more on my paint &fabrication work...anyways please help with said issue
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A small step ladder will help you get the reach you need when you respray.

Or try letting all the air out of the tires to bring it down.
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