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Old 11-17-2003, 02:47 PM
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Help with drivetrain control

Need help with the drivetrain in my '68 Camaro. My problems are as follows:

* Cracked the left motor mount twice in this summer. Polyurethane next time, or?

* My rear axle is knockin on the floor when I shift at high rpm.
I have a prepped TH 350 and 2.73 gear (a part of the problem?) in the axle; will be 3.42.

The engine is close to the classic LT1 so itīs no a super engine. I have multiple leaf spring package.
I will put new bushings in the rear end and probably mount tractionbars (reflections on that anyone?). I also suspect that the rear axle is pivoting somewhat (parallel to ground aspekt). I think new bushings will remedy that problem. Or...?

Thankful for any help!
//Henrik

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Old 11-17-2003, 06:59 PM
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What you are experiencing is classic body twist or flex... The unibody on your Camaro is getting old as are all of the body mounts and bushings as you mentioned. That's why you are breaking motor mounts. The body is flexing all over the place when you hit it hard during launches and full throttle up-shifts. You need to do a thorough inspection of the back half of the car. Check all of the leaf spring mounts, shock mounts and especially look for rust in the kickups of the rear frame rails right in front of the rear axle.
The least thing you will need to add are new body mounts. Go with rubber if this is a street car and a set of good subframe connectors. You can use poly bushings in the spring mounts but the ride on the street will be harsher. If you could put a 4 or 6 point cage in it that would be ideal. You have to stop the flexing...
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Old 11-17-2003, 07:28 PM
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A good set of "slapper bars" type traction bars will solve the rear end wrap up problem, check out the factory welds on the rear end, it was common for the rear to rotate on its factory mounts after tearing the welds loose. Also breaking the rear u-joint was common on cars that didn't use some type of "traction" bar rear stabilizer.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:54 PM
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Thanx for the help guys!
Thereīs no rust at least what so ever, but Astroman is right. I wouldnīt but my bushins on a bike....
The car IS a streetcar, but I do race it on dragstrips on occation and frequently at "Saturdaynight specials" so I need it to take some "beating".
Iīm not suprised actually when you mention body flex, Astroracer.
But do you think that I need to change front bushings as well? Itīs running perfectly up to 125 mhp. Straight as a rod infact.
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From reading your post, I'd say you're definitly getting wheel hop. This happened to me a few years ago when I first installed my 3.70 posi rearend in my 68. I actually had mono leafs, but at the time, the 400 hp small block I was running would tweak the spring so bad that the rearend would hit the floor. A good set of traction bars would be the way to go. I ran a set of SSM lift bars for a long time, and they eliminated the wheel hop. If money isn't so much of an issue, I would check out the caltracs bars from calvert racing. A few of my friends use them on their cars, and they work. Also, poly motor and trans mounts would be a good idea. I use the ones from energy suspension, and they have held up fine to the 600 hp or so Im pushing with nitrous.
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Old 11-23-2003, 02:43 PM
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Iīm not too sure Iīm getting wheel hop in meaning that the wheels are bouncing. When I smoke the tires I have no problems. Only when I drag up to approx. 6000 rpm and shift to second gear.
I do suspect though that my pinion is rising during burn out too
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