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Old 12-23-2005, 06:58 PM
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Help! I haven't seen this question before...

OK folks, I need some help. The rims I have on the panel have locking nuts. I know I hung onto the key for years but, Iíll be danged if I can find it anywhere. I ended up pulling the whole front end today, tires and all for my new IFS butÖ Iíve gotta get those rims off so I can put them up for sale.

I tried taping an impact socket on...no bite. I even made a couple of tries clamping a set of vise grips on a tapping with a hammerÖno good. I didnít spend a whole lot of time on it because I wanted to get other things done today.

Iíll give anything a whirl short of applying a torch. Oh by the way, if the photo is not good enough, it's the type that the notches are down around the bottom edge, not the grooved top.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:01 PM
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can you weld a nut on to the end ?
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:05 PM
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Hmmmm...possibly. If I scuff the end of the chromed nut I should be able to..without applying too much heat. I'd be concerned about the splatter but, I could put some in between to catch it.

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try a small pipe wrench
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:39 PM
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try a small pipe wrench
Worth a shot!
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Keep em coming guys (or gals )!
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:00 PM
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Use a cutoff tool w/ thin blade to cut a slot then make a 'screwdriver' from a piece of 1/8" x 1" steel strap.

Or, grind a couple of flats so your vice grips get a grip.
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:45 PM
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There is a special "locker socket" your local tire guy may have one as I expect you are not the first guy to lose the special socket..Might try that..

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I came across a nice set of wheels at a local junkyard that had the locks still on them with no key in sight. These were the locks that have the custom cloverleaf pattern that engages the key. I used a 12-point socket that was slightly smaller than the lug and drove it on with a hammer. I used a breaker bar to take them off. The difficult part was getting the socket off the lock to do the next wheel, which I did by screwing the lock back on an empty lug and beating on it with a hammer.
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Old 12-24-2005, 06:44 AM
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You have a ton of room there, this is a no brainer, an air chisel. I have removed them over the years many times with an air chisel. You get a nice sharp air chisel and point it into the lug at a SLIGHT angle in the direction of rotation (lefty loosey righty tighty ) and apply a lot of pressure so when you hit the button it won't slip. Just lightly hit the bottom so you get an even "tap, tap, tap, tap, tap" and increase power as needed.

I remember doing this on a rental car out in the middle of nowhere. I stopped into a gas station with a flat and asked the mechanic for an air chisel to get the wheel off being I couldn't find he key in the car. Three guys stood there in amazement as I pulled the nut off in a few seconds.

Are you sure you are going in the right direction? There are some old Mopars that had a left hand thread lug nut on the right side of the car.

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Old 12-24-2005, 08:24 AM
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You have a ton of room there, this is a no brainer, an air chisel. I have removed them over the years many times with an air chisel. You get a nice sharp air chisel and point it into the lug at a SLIGHT angle in the direction of rotation (lefty loosey righty tighty ) and apply a lot of pressure so when you hit the button it won't slip. Just lightly hit the bottom so you get an even "tap, tap, tap, tap, tap" and increase power as needed.

I remember doing this on a rental car out in the middle of nowhere. I stopped into a gas station with a flat and asked the mechanic for an air chisel to get the wheel off being I couldn't find he key in the car. Three guys stood there in amazement as I pulled the nut off in a few seconds.

Are you sure you are going in the right direction? There are some old Mopars that had a left hand thread lug nut on the right side of the car.

Brian
Now that's idea I hadn't thought of... I had decided to try to track down a tool truck today to see about a special socket but this is worth a try (it's free!).
It's definitely a counter clock wise to take off.

Thanks to all that responded.
I'll let ya'll know the final solution.

Merry Christmas to all!
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Had the same problem once. A buddy had one of those lug nut remover sockets and came over and got the nut off for me. They do work! Oh yeah, I found the key for the locking nut the next day while looking for something else...
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:15 PM
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Snap on tools and all the rest of the tool guys make a special tool to remove them. If you have a air chisel with a straight bit get on the edge in the direction to remove it and give it a good shot with chisel i've removed them this way.
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hey i am a machinest in the army so i extract broken bolts and stuff like ths all the time there is a set of tools with teeth on the inside and a hex wrenching surface on the outside its called ( extraktor ) i highly reccommend these for stripped nuts and studs i apolagize for the lack for more info ill do some googleing and see what i come up with

oh and one more thing you said you removed the whole assy whats the possability of getting to the back side of the studs and knocking the heads off then you will atleast have a hub or rotor or both between you and youre rims

good luck and id like to know how you get it off
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Here's the kit....http://www.toolbarn.com/product/irwin/54125/
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