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Help Identifying an Engine

I have a 1981 Ski Supreme Boat with a Ford Engine in it. I was told by the original owner that it was a 351 Cleveland, but accoding to my broken distributor and camshaft, I'm beginning to think he was wrong.

I've removed the camshaft for replacement and noticed a stamp inside the manifold area on the block. The stamp says:

351 WCP-10

The valve covers have a 6 hole pattern. On the end of the camshaft it's stamped by FORD "518"

Any help much appreciated. It's getting very expensing buying random parts and breaking more crap.

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The block codes on Fords is located behind the starter you have to take it out to read it,then check with Ford parts dept to verify,Good luck I had to call a couple before I got a straight answer. Jeff B
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I have a 1981 Ski Supreme Boat with a Ford Engine in it. I was told by the original owner that it was a 351 Cleveland, but accoding to my broken distributor and camshaft, I'm beginning to think he was wrong.

I've removed the camshaft for replacement and noticed a stamp inside the manifold area on the block. The stamp says:

351 WCP-10

The valve covers have a 6 hole pattern. On the end of the camshaft it's stamped by FORD "518"

Any help much appreciated. It's getting very expensing buying random parts and breaking more crap.
6 bolt valve covers means its a 351 Windsor. Different block, heads, crank than the Cleveland. Still a good motor, and easier to get parts for (they built a whole lot more of them).
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Thing about it... we first tried a windsor distributor and it wouldn't fit over the oil pump shaft. And the cleveland one tore up the camshaft. I'm starting to think it's neither.

I was gonna take the starter off today and try to get some numbers, but got sick last nite Hopefully I'll feel good enough to get out there later.
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I have a 1970 chevrolet Impala and I don't know what size engine it have in it. I brought plugs for 350 but they were wrong. the plugs i have in there now match up with a 454 engine the numbers that is on the engine is 3965577 GM6 there are some other parts I have replace need to know so i can get the one for this engine.
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Thing about it... we first tried a windsor distributor and it wouldn't fit over the oil pump shaft. And the cleveland one tore up the camshaft. I'm starting to think it's neither.

I was gonna take the starter off today and try to get some numbers, but got sick last nite Hopefully I'll feel good enough to get out there later.
if the winsor distributor would not fit over the oil pump drive you had a 302 distributor, 351 winsor distributor has a largeroilpump shaft than a 302 other wise they look same. the 351 clevland gear onthe cam is different than winsor302 351. cliff
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I have a 1970 chevrolet Impala and I don't know what size engine it have in it. I brought plugs for 350 but they were wrong. the plugs i have in there now match up with a 454 engine the numbers that is on the engine is 3965577 GM6 there are some other parts I have replace need to know so i can get the one for this engine.
Go to Mortec.com it's possible the heads were changed at one time and that me be the key to your problem.Mortec lists the block codes and the head codes both so you can ID year and model both.JeffB
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baddalaskan,

Boat engines are a mix of parts. I think you will find that the block is a 302 with a 351 camshaft in it. The firing order is from the 351 but the distributor from the 302. The heads are from the 351 and the intake is from the 302.

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baddalaskan,

Boat engines are a mix of parts. I think you will find that the block is a 302 with a 351 camshaft in it. The firing order is from the 351 but the distributor from the 302. The heads are from the 351 and the intake is from the 302.

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most marine 302s used the fireing order as the 351 winser the heads are immaterial as 351winser will bolt on to a 302 with washers and 302 hardware, what is not interchangeable is the distributors as the oil pump drive on the 351w is larger in diameter. if the distributor that was replaced was for a 351clevland that would acount for the torup gear on the cam,but would go over the oilpump drive as they are the same od so from this i would think the engine is a 351W. the distrib.for 302w,it would not go down into place re the larger oil pump drive shaft so gear not meshed.nor oil pump drive.in canada never herd of a marine 351C
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I have a 1970 chevrolet Impala and I don't know what size engine it have in it. I brought plugs for 350 but they were wrong. the plugs i have in there now match up with a 454 engine the numbers that is on the engine is 3965577 GM6 there are some other parts I have replace need to know so i can get the one for this engine.
You shouldn't hijack somebody elses thread to ask a totally unrelated question. You'll get more, better responses by posting your own thread. You'll also avoid the confusion of people answering multiple questions from different people in the same thread.
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most marine 302s used the fireing order as the 351 winser the heads are immaterial as 351winser will bolt on to a 302 with washers and 302 hardware, what is not interchangeable is the distributors as the oil pump drive on the 351w is larger in diameter. if the distributor that was replaced was for a 351clevland that would acount for the torup gear on the cam,but would go over the oilpump drive as they are the same od so from this i would think the engine is a 351W. the distrib.for 302w,it would not go down into place re the larger oil pump drive shaft so gear not meshed.nor oil pump drive.in canada never herd of a marine 351C
I am not positive they don't exist, but in years of talking about, looking at, and building Ford engines I have never run across or heard about a marine 351C either.
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We have many marinised clevos over here in Australia.

I'm assuming that you're talking Ford Factory Marine engines not existing???.
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We have many marinised clevos over here in Australia.

I'm assuming that you're talking Ford Factory Marine engines not existing???.
Right, they were not shipped from the factory as marine engines. They could have easily been converted, all the marine parts are bolt on -- but the 351C was popular in cars in the day, and so they didn't offer them to the marine market.
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