I live in California just so you guys know what state laws may be aplicable. I just bought a 55 chevy hardtop bel air. I found out the owner removed the VIN tag inside the door post and the one on the firewall. I have not sent the money yet for the car. Is this illegal, can I register the car in California, what should I do??? Help I need to know so I can send the money or call off the deal. Thanks in advance for any replies. He still has the tags but they are not on the car anymore. Can I just screw them on or do I have to rivet them or JBweld them LOL. My first post sorry if I put it in the wrong forum.
12-07-2004 08:38 PM
Several years ago when I first moved to California, I brought along a '54 F-250 I had restored. The VIN plate on that vehicle was attached to the inside of the glove box door. I had removed it to paint it... drilled out 4 very small rivets and never got around to re-attaching it. When I took it the the CHPs station to get it inspected/licensed the guy almost went apoplectic when he saw the plate was not where his book said it was supposed to be. I reached into the glove box and showed it to him. At that point he went a little crazier and began talking about how did he know I had not stolen the vehicle. When I produced other evidence it was legally mine, he insisted that he destroy that neat little plate with the Ford logo, which he did.
My advice, if you feel its all legal, and he just removed them to paint, replace them as carefully as you can, maybe with those little SS rivets that have threats that you pound in and take it down. If you get called on them, plead ignorance... 'the guy I bought the car from musta done it when he repainted'.
But don't take 'em down unattached. If you don't re-attach them it would probably be better not to take them at all and just depend on whatever paper work you have to prove its legal.
These guys (at least the one I dealt with) have no common sense and are real rule followers and bureaucrats. i.e., when I pointed out to that dimwit that since the VIN plate was attached to glove box door at the factory, if I wanted to steal the truck and change the VIN all I would have to do is get another glove box door and bolt it on, he couldn't seem to grasp the concept. The other funny thing was that I had set the body on a '73 chassis... had a big block V8 all tricked out. That fool spent nearly an hour trying to locate the VIN where the book said it was stamped on the frame.
12-08-2004 12:31 AM
Is the car from out of state? Do you feel the guy is reputable, safe to buy from? I would agree with everything 36 said, in addition I would research to try to get rivets that match as closely as possible. If you are pulled over and there is any suspicion the tags have been tampered with, you'll open a can of worms. Be sure to get a bill of sale. There shouldn't be any inspection done if you get ALL the paperwork possible. Good luck. Dan
12-08-2004 12:54 PM
The car was brought from out of state but never registered in California. I know I would have to take it to DMV for VIN inspection. It has all the paperwork. The seller has not the greatest feedback in his Ebay profile.
12-08-2004 04:44 PM
well. I think right there is your problem. it's off Ebay. don't trust anyone on that site. I'd just hold off until you find something better because Ebay is a big gimmick if you ask me.
12-08-2004 07:48 PM
Originally posted by AK47 The car was brought from out of state but never registered in California. I know I would have to take it to DMV for VIN inspection. It has all the paperwork. The seller has not the greatest feedback in his Ebay profile.
If you have all the proper paperwork, it shouldn't have to go to dmv for vin inspection.