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Old 07-26-2004, 06:09 PM
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help with John Deere Blitz Black

i would like to say hi to all
when using John Deere Blitz Black do i have to use the john deere reducer and hardener or can i use another brand? if so what can i use any help would would be great-full.

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That is a synthetic enamel.
You can use ANY brand of a 8:1, 3:1, 4:1 synthetic, acrylic enamel , urethane enamel, or polyurethane activator.
Just mix what ever you buy 8:1.
I would recommend at least an acrylic enamel activator for durability, only caution would be is if you go to a urethane or polyurethane type it will put a little extra sheen in your paint.

Reducer.
This is a queer paint so for streaking problems I would use only the John Deere reducer, only other choice would be expensive such as PPG 885 because that would have enough MEK in it to help with the streaking.
If that not a concern, yes ANY enamel or urethane reducer, white gas Will work. I would forget the white gas!
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hi; hondadude
mixing different brands is real unpopular, but there are a few things you can do. one, check the label on the can to see if the manufacturer is one of some other common brand. almost all reducers are interchangeable that is urethane to urethane or acrylic enamel to acrylic enamel. hardeners are different but some do interchange all requires care full experimenting and even testing for longevity. if you have the time and enough projects you can spray your experiments on such as farm equipment,tools,interiors of cars under upholstery and carpet, so on and so forth. i've done it for years and have come up with excellent combinations. good luck
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had a thought and forgot to mention it at first,why would you like
to check other brands. is it because you already have other materials or are johndeer chemicals too exspencive?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by one off
[B]hi; hondadude
mixing different brands is real unpopular,
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No its not, there are companies that make a living doing this, IE trans star, Classic, Marhyde, and many more.
The paint company's will (well maybe) admit that 60%+ of all shops interchange systems. (last years figures)
If you know the chemistry its not a problem by the way for your info John Deere is S&W enamel.

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the reason i want to know is becouse i have to mail oder the john deere stuff . i can get other brands local and i want to paint today but if i have to order out i guess i will have to wait
does this paint need hardner?
what is s&w ??

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Its Sherwin Williams or Marin senior at a Napa store.
Does not have to have hardener
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thanks i think that should do it.
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by the way what kind of honda u got???

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So basicly just stick with the JD reducer? add/use nothing else?
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Hardener would be an option but a great idea!
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what hardner sould i use the jd stuff is like $33 can i use any thing that mite be a little cheaper

does any1 have any pics of a car with jd bb paint on it
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does any1 have any pics of a car with jd bb paint on it
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allright hondadude, here are some pics........I don't know if that's plain blitzt black or with a flat clear applied on top of it but it is blitz black.







Hope this helps a bit

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Hi hondadude;
i think the 33.00 dollars is well worth the money. hope all goes well on that adventure. i own a honda repair shop, i have a 92 prelude 4 wheel steer with an h22 vtec very low with our own
rear adjustable upper control arms. we are building an h23 for a
customer with help from JG enginering that has a proven bottom-
end good for over 900 hp. with extensive head work and manifold work and a small turbo good for 500hp and a hondata ecu. just to keep the hot rod thing going here too, we also have been building for the last five years a 48 chevy pickup with multible one of a kind stuff. i have no equipment to send pictures,
sorry. i rarely have time to check the bulletin out. by the way that is one cool bike Nightfire.
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what hardener should i use the jd stuff is like $33 can i use any thing that mite be a little cheaper

does any1 have any pics of a car with jd bb paint on it
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Marhyde and Transtar has a cross referenced hardener for about $15 (syn enamel)
any jobber can order this from his Warehouse and have it the next day.BK

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hey I know this isn't the place for this message, but I've got a H23A and Auto tranny out of a 92 Si Prelude. Has 130K miles but ran strong - car was totaled. If anybody is interested shoot me an email, Eminem2001Z@aol.com
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