[highwaystar]

Greetings,

I am no expert regarding paint so I need help before making an uniformed complaint. I had paint and bodywork done on my 72 Camaro and have paint chipping/flaking off. I would like to approach this delicately to maintain a good relationship with the shop.

I have attached the some pictures of what I'm experiencing and would like to know what could have caused this. This was not an economy job and paid good money and believe they use good Dupont supplies.

This is the area where the Urethane RS nose connects to the valance.



This is a flaked off spot near hood.



Rocker area

[cjperotti]

I don’t know of any delicate way to put this, but, I’ll try any ways.

First photo: two separate pieces should have been removed and repaired then painted separately, then re-installed. Instead cheap seam sealer was used and due to the normal flex and vibration of the joint paint is peeling and separation is evident. Cure: parts need to be removed and properly repaired and painted then re-installed.

Second photo: Poor adhesion is evident here. Moreover, the panel on the left has a hairline crack in the paint. Reason, third photo provides the answer.

Third Photo: Way too much red hardener in Dura glass.

[oldschool hero]

X2 Just what he said.

[wayneooo]

no delicate way, take it back and show them what af++ked up job they done thats what u pay them for to do it right. try to get a job at a shop and u have to have 10 yrs experience etc etc etc

[highwaystar]

Thank you for your responses. This will help me understand the process more. I anticipate I will be blamed for damaging the car putting the exterior parts on.

I know these places were not bumped by me and I did damage the paint when installing a door handle and it didn't flake off. The damage looked much different.

Thanks again

[MARTINSR]

The second and third photo show poor adhesion, it looks like you could get your finger nail under that and just keep on chipping it off.

But the thing you need to verify is what exactly is chipping off? Is it something the bodyshop applied or is it something they painted over because they weren't paid to strip it to bare metal? The material looks pretty thick, did they apply all this or did they just "paint it" and there were previous poorly applied paint or primers?

The bodyshop may or may not be at fault here.

Brian

[dwhitt]

How long has it been since the car was painted?

[highwaystar]

That is a good point regarding previous work. The previous paint was a cheap single stage done by a discount chain 30 years ago.

Painting over that was a concern so they sanded that off and got to a previous paint job. The filler work was done over that paint. Then primed and final smoothing was done. Then the car was then primed again and painted.

The paint was done about three weeks ago.

[MARTINSR]

It looks like what they painted over may be what let loose. Honestly, unless they were paid to remove it, you got what you paid for. You can't make them responsible for work that they didn't do and weren't paid to correct.

If they want to fix these spots out of the goodness of their hearts let them and be very appreciative because they don't have to to do it.

Brian

[dinger]

Originally Posted by MARTINSR

It looks like what they painted over may be what let loose. Honestly, unless they were paid to remove it, you got what you paid for. You can't make them responsible for work that they didn't do and weren't paid to correct.

If they want to fix these spots out of the goodness of their hearts let them and be very appreciative because they don't have to to do it.

Brian

Agreed but...would a epoxy primer or sealer prevented this from happening? If so, the shop should have known and charges for that to be done, if not, the customer should have been told there was a possibility of that being a problem. Either way, a touch up, be it brush or sprayed, will need to be done. I'd ask for some paint for that reason. I don't know what you paid, but it seems you can't get a decent job in this area, with a guarantee, for less than 10 grand. If you paid less than 4 grand, I'd touch it up myself if they won't do it for free.

[highwaystar]

In regards to "getting what I paid for" I didn't have any opinion or place any limitation on what should be sanding off. Nor did I limit the amount of money I would spend. They worked on it and I wrote checks based on the time. Cost for filler work and paint was about 14K.

[MARTINSR]

For that kind of money it should have been stripped. Unless there was a bunch of body work, $14 grand should have gotten it stripped.

Brian

[Bad Rat]

If I would have paid 14K for that kind of work, and this happened this soon, I would be sitting on their doorstep when they opened,
That looks like plain ole over priced , shabby work to me,,
even if they didn't strip it,, they should have known that the base they were working with wasn't right..
the caulk was just smeared on and a finger ran down it to kinda smooth it out,, wonder if he licked his finger first to keep the caulk from stickin to his finger,,

You paid for a premium paint job and didn't get anything close,, sorry to be so blunt,, but 14K is alot of money and I definately would be doing something about it,,, nice or not,,

[oldskoolnewrules]

14k and its loaded with filler and fiber fill??? 14k is a bare metal respray and all metal should be metal finished requiring at the very most a light skim.

[dinger]

Originally Posted by Bad Rat

If I would have paid 14K for that kind of work, and this happened this soon, I would be sitting on their doorstep when they opened,
That looks like plain ole over priced , shabby work to me,,
even if they didn't strip it,, they should have known that the base they were working with wasn't right..
the caulk was just smeared on and a finger ran down it to kinda smooth it out,, wonder if he licked his finger first to keep the caulk from stickin to his finger,,

You paid for a premium paint job and didn't get anything close,, sorry to be so blunt,, but 14K is a lot of money and I definitely would be doing something about it,,, nice or not,,

Agreed. When I was looking at your problems, I was thinking that you paid $2000-4000 plus materials without a lot of major surgery being done. They should remedy this with no belly aching, it didn't work for them this time.