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Old 07-30-2004, 06:24 AM
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Help me pick- Electronic Ignition Coil

Hi all, just after a bit of advice in regards to choosing a Coil for my engine.

Firstly this is for an Australian 1982 V8 Cleveland engine.

Using the Standard Ford Motorcraft Bosch 12 V Electronic Ignition Distributor and ignition system.

I have been using the Normal Bosch 12V electronic Ignition Coil, but are wondering if there are any benefits in going up to a MSD Blaster 2 (12 Electronic Ignition Model) or a Malloy 12 V Electronic Ignition Coil.

Both these coils boast that they have a stronger more powerful spark over standard coils.

While there's no doubt that this is the case when comparing Points Ignition coils from a standard coils to a performance ones, but when your dealing with Electronic Ignition, I have always been lead to believe that in standard from they had a massive spark out put, and short of going to a MSD system, that's it.

Are these MSD and Mallory coils going to offer any major benefit in a Electronic Ignition system over the normal Bosch Electronic Ignition coil?

Thanks heaps for any help or comments.

Francis.

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How much RPM is this engine turning..?? If it is in a normal type of car up to 5000-6000 RPM the stocker should be fine..When we go to High Compression ratios..high RPM's then the aftermarket ignitons come into play..

That is how I think about this..
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yeah about 6000 rpm and no higher than 10:1 Comp
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Ok, done a bit of shoping around, seems I can get either a MSD Blaster 2 12V Electronic Ignition Coil or a Champion12 V electronci Ignition one for a bit less.

Everyone is telling me there would not be all that much difference in the out put of them so I should just go the cheaper one of the two.

Any thoughts?????
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Blaster II chrome coil, p/n 8200...OK

NAPA IC12 black coil, OK, same coil as MSD 8200 (NOT IC12 SB)

Summit G5215, OK, same coil as MSD 8200

CarQuest 26189 black coil, OK, made with the same specs as MSD 8200.

Blaster II RED coils 8201, 8202, NO, layer shorting issues, made in Mexico, problem prone

Accel 8140, 8140C, 8145, 8145C, NO, Taiwan made, problem prone.

Mallory, I avoid.
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How about ProComp and Crane?
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Crane are made at Andover, oil filled, and good stuff,

Pro-Comp...Chinese masquerading as Australian, run as fast as you can away from that junk.

NOTE: With ALL oil fileld coils, it is absolutely vital that they are mounted vertical, or very close to vertical, WIRE END (NOSE) UP, AND NOT LAID ON THEIR SIDES, OR UP SIDE DOWN. Failure to do so will uncover the coils from the cooling oil inside the coil.

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HI again! I have been meaning to say thanks heaps for you advice. I really enjoy learning all I can about these kind of things.

The Procomp stuff is becoming so big over here. There Dizzys are a real big seller. They are very cheap and people are seeming to prefer them over re-conditioning there original units.

Now you got me worried! I just bought an 86 Trans Am, and the guy had removed all the original HEI stuff and installed a Procomp Dizzy and Coil. There was nothing wrong with the original stuff, he was one of these guy's that if the sticker say's "go faster" he had to have it.

Are there any issues that I should be on the look out with this set up he has installed in my Trans Am?
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This is a PM sent to me just after I posted info on the Pro-Comp stuff here on this board. This fellow was a brand new board member at that time, a couple of months ago, and from New Zealand.

This is his copied PM to me.

" PRO COMP"

"I have just joined from New Zealand and are glad to see you have advised a few away from the above brand.They are selling cheap in New ZEaland along with the like Pro Comp 6A box from Australia where they are made first in China, they are also doing cheap alloy heads.Some I see in Aust are going though 3 distributors before getting money back."

"I am going to be trying the Hyfire VIA and E spark soon after 10 years of very good XR700 crane use, I needed a rev limiter and wanted a Mallory Distributor."

"Keep up the good info!"

We are seeing the exact same thing happen here in the States after just a few short weeks with Peter's stuff. He also owns Sydney Speed and Marine, and doesn't have a stellar reputation at all, anywhere in the world we could find. His strongest forte seems to be to knock off other's parts and products, make them for the lowest dollar, and flood the market in hopes of putting other reputable businesses out of business and competition with him.

Peter will also make just about anyone a dealer, I would assume you as well, should you so desire. That makes for unprotected sales areas and cutthroat selling tactics from other "dealers". We have even seen his dealers sell the parts on E-bay for far less than other "dealers" are into them for.

The cheap alloy heads mentioned are the old Pro-Topline items, now made in China for Peter. I have personally seen 7 sets of the latest production runs, with dropped valve seats, all from one seller in Los Angeles, just this last weekend (he ain't a reall happy camper about Pro-Comp), along with broken full roller rockers.

Sorry, but that IS the general concensus of opinion about Pro-Comp and Peter.
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wow that is good info on th pro-topline... i was thinking of getting some of their heads... not any more..
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Peter does seem to be very adept at taking a good product and driving it into the ground, killing it for future production, by making it into instant junk for the time he makes it. He seems to only care about profits, not the customer or products he clones.

Now, Peter did purchase most of the castings and molds for the Pro-Topline heads, but if the attitude in making them isn't on the right track, if only profits are the motivation, then, the product, and the customers will suffer from that attitude.

His track record isn't a very good one.

Sorry to nave to say that, but it is the truth, and that is the most important part of all this, but it needs to be done.
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glad the truth is out... and they had such good reviews a few years ago...
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One very important thing to remember, Peter didn't own Pro-Topline a few years ago. They were the best company when the original people had them, now, it is just more Peter junk.
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Trans Am Ignition help

Hi Ignition Man.

No sure if you remember me, but you gave me some advice awhile ago regarding coils.

I'm just after some help with getting a new distributor for my 86 5L TPI Trans Am and thought you would be the best person to talk to.

Firstly I'm located in Australia, so finding a local shop here that knows what part number is best just wont happen. Secondly Trans Am's are an exotic here. So Spare parts all have to come from the US or you have to know the part number your ordering as the spare parts books here don't list Pontiacs to look up replacement parts under. If you know the part number for anything then usually your ok, but otherwise they just don't want to offer help cross referencing.

The problem is the last owner has installed a Procomp Electronics Distributor. PN: PC - 10001_ Chev Late Model HEI. PD 1-12. website www.procompelectronics.com

This is a late model HEI style that has a separate coil (not in the Cap).

Aside that I have been told so many bad things about these units, when I pulled a lead off the cap the other day the whole rod going in to the housing cam up with it. I have chased the Australian agent for a replacement cap and while I'm at it Rotor, but no one seems to know anything about or stock anything for the 10000 series only the 6000 & 7000.

So I'm going to start looking at either finding a good original unit to fit back in or information as to what other units are worth chasing, Such as MSD or Mallory? If perhaps you might know what model or part number that is a direct replacement unit I can use to what is either in there now (which would be easiest) or the original GM HEI unit. Also would you recommend a model number for a quality coil that would also be really appreciated.

Also if you know a good place to order one that will ship worldwide that would help heaps and save me dealing with people that have no idea over here.

Thanks heaps in advance.

Francis.
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