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Old 03-12-2006, 12:15 PM
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Hemi ID

Help! The numbers that are supposed to be stamped on the front side if the block, aren't there. The engine is in a 1958 heavy Dodge truck. the previous owner claimed buying parts for a 354 (hemi). How can I be sure? Is there another way to ID it without tearing it down? Runs good! ancientiron

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On the industrial/truck engines there is often a brass tag attached to the bellhousing extension on the driverside (it's usually pretty easy to see once you get all the crud off of it). If thats not there, there is a block casting number under the intake manifold on the right hand side by the lifter vally cover (it's better than tearing the whole engine down). You'll need to break the number down with a casting number book, or post it here, and I'll see what my book shows.
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1964fordtripower; Thanx for the info, I looked for the tag, couldn't find anything obvious. Next I'll take the intake off, I'll post the casting NO's , hopefully in a few days. Probably would make a great engine for a street rod. Could get creative with this one. Thanx, ancientiron.
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Just post what you find, or PM me. A good HEMI site for parts is http://www.hothemiheads.com/ .

Their a bit pricey to play with, but you can't beat the visual impact.
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Next I'll take the intake off, I'll post the casting NO's , hopefully in a few days.
You do NOT need to take the intake off the engine to find the block ID numbers. The numbers you need are located as shown in this photograph. They will be STAMPED into the flat area just in front of the valley cover.



When you find them post them here and we'll ID it for you.
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The number location hold true, but only for passenger car engines. The area you show are blank on the non passenger car engines.

The industrial/truck engines genrally had the brass data tag in the location I stated, but if thats gone, your left with identifying the block through the casting numbers (the raised letters/numbers cast into block), which are under the intake.

At least that holds true for the 1 passenger car and 2 industerial HEMIs I have.
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The number location hold true, but only for passenger car engines......... The industrial/truck engines genrally had the brass data tag in the location I stated........
Everything I've seen has the ID numbers stamped in the location I showed in the picture with the exception of industrial engines. They have a tag as you mentioned. That said, if the engine was a factory replacement it won't have anything stamped on the block.

Either way we'll have to wait and see if he finds any letters and numbers stamped anywhere. It could be a Chrysler 354 or Dodge 325 depending on what truck it came in.

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Theres a possibility that the engine could also be a 331, which also saw duty in industrial and truck applications (to include past 1955). We pulled a 331 from a 56 Dodge fire truck years ago.
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the numbers aren't stamped

Thanx to all; I'm still going to get down to the castings, I do know the difference between the firepower and the red ram even though there are similarities, the size and the water inlets are different. The book says they put 354's , 392's and some firedomes, besides the 325 Red Ram. I know what it isn't. I should have it exposed by Sat. ancientiron.
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All hemis are junk and are hazardous waste. I have been appointed by the EPA as an official HHWCF (Hemi Hazardous Waste Collection Facility).

By the power vested in me by the United States Federal Government, and the President of the United States:


I COMMAND YOU TO SHIP THAT HEMI TO:

PREFERRED AUTO SERVICE
210 EAST AVENUE A.
CIMARRON, KANSAS 67835


P.S. Centerline is under investiagation as a GHV (Gross Hemi Violator), and he should be avoided or you could involved yourself in more trouble than you can imagine.
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