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Old 04-17-2013, 03:07 PM
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Absolutely Jay, I think that would be great, always willing to learn more.

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Do you guys think there is enough interest to start a custom painting tricks thread in the paint and body forum?

I've been doing this for other people since the early seventies, so I am well aware that one-color paint is dominant right now.

Still, I imagine some might enjoy discussing some old and some new tricks.

Speak up if you are in favor, and I'll do a few posts myself to help start things up.

?????

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THREAD

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Old 04-17-2013, 04:19 PM
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Brian, Right now I am "custom painting" some undercoating underneath a '40 Ford truck bed... LOL! ...but I will get to it later. Maybe tonight.
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how would this plastic rap trick look with a candy color..
then buried under x coats of the candy color..

?? 2
what is marblizer.. looks like controlled fish eyes

I am on the fence on adding those stipes on my SS and that looks different enough.. tho I think the inner corners at the bumper end needs different shaping
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Jay, if I had any custom paint knowledge to share, I'd be on the thread you suggested. Ad it stands, I'll learn from you and whoever else posts in it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:03 PM
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how would this plastic rap trick look with a candy color..
then buried under x coats of the candy color..
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what is marblizer.. looks like controlled fish eyes
As far as I know,the marblizer comes with the pearl/metallic in it. A little research with HOK, and you might find just the clear base. It is not the same as regular clear paint. I don't know if kandy concentrates would mix with it okay.

Marblizer is a pearl or metallic in a paint base. One difference is that it stays wet longer than normal paints, so you can drop the saran wrap over it, then move the wrap and fluid around until you like the pattern.

After that you lift the saran wrap off and let it dry. If you don't like the pattern you got... you can wash the silver off with a mild solvent, leaving the original base coat ready to try again.

After your pattern is satisfactory, and has enough time to dry, you can shoot regular clears or candies over it. On the sample I posted, it has a green candy fade at the top of the marblized area.

On the one we've been discussing, it has a black base underneath, with a silver marblizer.so the thin spots cause the dark patterns.

Once you have tried it, you will be surprised how easy it is. :-)
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Sometimes it's much easier to just redo both sides,,, Then trying to match what someone else did..
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Sometimes it's much easier to just redo both sides,,, Then trying to match what someone else did..
This is very true and probably the best way to go. That hadn't hit me. To mask off the stripes, do the whole thing over again would take a lot less time and materials than trying to figure out what this guy did exactly.

Good thinking Randy.

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X2 on that Randy, that way the stripes could be spaced properly and might even look better overall. By the way, where have ya bin lately, I haven't read many posts from you in the last little while, or have I just missed them?

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X2 on that Randy, that way the stripes could be spaced properly and might even look better overall. By the way, where have ya bin lately, I haven't read many posts from you in the last little while, or have I just missed them?

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Been real busy lately Mr.Ray...
Not sure where I'm at sometimes..
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I was just saying it's easier to lay out the two sides and do a marblizer and the plastic rap trick and be done.. They will match and you can give him something he might just like better then he had in the first place.. That way you done, don't spend time and money trying to figure out how it was done.... We ALL know how it was done.... But matching it is a whole different ball game..
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Good call Randy...sometimes the best solution is not to try and fix something that's broken beyond repair, in this case, paint work is no different than metal work, if a quarter panel that needs repair and it's to the point that the insurance company actually steps up and buys you a new one...this is one time that they should step up and buy new SS stripes.

I looked at it like a painter...how can that be matched? ...and given enough time, it, in all probability could...but then you came along and asked the proper question...which was why.

Sometimes the best advice is the easiest...damn thing is though, often it's the hardest to remember...LOL.

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Good point, it doesn't change a whole lot, if we do it we still need to figure out how. We have a custom painter we work with who will probably end up doing it but this co-worker is such a great gu and he loves doing custom paint, we are slow, I was hoping I could push to have him do it. He has done some outstanding stuff just not this particular thing. He is more of a traditionalist but he has a lot of heart and likes messing with things so I have pushed to do it in house.

Brian
I agree... It would be a good experiance for him...let him do it Brian.. but tell him you want the same design in both stripes ....That should make it a challenge... Anybody can lay out one stripe but doing two exactly the same ....thats where the real talent lays,LOL ....
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Do you guys think there is enough interest to start a custom painting tricks thread in the paint and body forum?

I've been doing this for other people since the early seventies, so I am well aware that one-color paint is dominant right now.

Still, I imagine some might enjoy discussing some old and some new tricks.

Speak up if you are in favor, and I'll do a few posts myself to help start things up.

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I'd like to see that.... mainly to gawk at some nice work,but anything to do with an air brush and I'm lost...I'd love to learn shading for that 3-D look ...
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If the time is available, then by all means, let him learn. The problem is that the painter is working in a shop and I know if I was managing the shop the decision that I'd have to make would be to get it done, in and out, even if it was slow. The reason being that sometimes learning is trial and error, trial and error cost money in wages (unless the guy is flat rate) and materials...let alone booth time. That's the way management needs to think in order to be successful in our competitive insurance driven market.

A lot of ideas and techniques I use today came from people in the trade that shared how to knowledge with me. Practical hands on experience regarding custom work or painting was done on my own time, my own shop and my own materials. It would be great if there was shop out there that paid painters to gain that experience and there might be the odd one here and there but, for the most part, it's up to the painter to pursue the art side of painting on there own time.

Mike, again, so true about laying out two stripes exactly the same. Especially if there is shading/blending air brush work involved A painter needs to know his materials, equipment and have the experience to make both sides identical.

Ray
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