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Old 04-15-2013, 03:08 PM
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Hey TucsonJay, how the heck do you do this custom paint?

Jay, we have this Monte Carlo at the shop and need to replace the front bumper so we need to paint this, how is it done? I looks like the old laying the plastic over the paint trick but what about all those little line patterns?

I was thinking you spray the black, then after it's fully dry you spray the silver then spray solvent droplets over it,then blow those droplets with air, then lay your plastic over it. That is this NON-custom painters idea.

But one of the painters is a great guy who has been dabbling in custom paint and wants to jump on it but we wanted a little guidance if you have the time.

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Old 04-15-2013, 03:14 PM
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I am absolutely by no means a custom painter, but I've seen this look before. Could it be this, Brian?

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Old 04-15-2013, 04:33 PM
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It's definitely done with marblizer and saran wrap.

I know that if you shoot marblizer too heavy, it acts "sloppy-funny" when the saran wrap is used. I would try a test panel or two to practice how to get a similar texture.

If you shoot the marblizer heavier than normal, then arrange the wrinkles in the saran wrap, and immediately pull the saran wrap off to one side, you might get something close. If you don't get the tentacles, I would spray it even wetter, and try again.

I don't think blowing with air is what they did, but... If your experiment is not close enough, I would have an air hose close by, and immediately try your idea for blowing the wet marblizer to enhance those little "tentacles". :-)

The nice thing is that the marblizer can be wiped off... (with mineral spirits I think)... so if you encounter a problem, wash the marblizer off of the base coat, and try again.

Good luck.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:41 PM
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Thanks so much, I will pass this on as I won't be doing it and my co-worker is chomping at the bit to dive in and start experimenting.

Thanks again guys very much.

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Old 04-15-2013, 04:52 PM
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Always glad to help. :-)
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Hey Brian. THAT is some SICK work man. Yeah I'm still around . And that is more than simple wrap and air.I would "try" and find out "who" did it and get with them.I was "thinking" some stripe brush end work for the "worms" and "spots".Man,THIS is NOT something to play around with.Your looking at some "one off style" work and not soon to be replicated,especially from a rookie.NO offense to your man.It looks like only the very front of the lower stripe on the cap is wrecked,and,"if" possible,try to keep it there.Otherwise,Do the cap and "try" best as you can to replicate from there.Good Luck.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:40 PM
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We have a renowned custom painter near by we will probably have him take a look at it and see if he can do it or tell our guy how to.

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looks like there was something laid on it but also a brushing stroke going on. maybe a saran wrap with something shaped like a pencil eraser to make the strokes? Trippy.
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I just happened to think of something.

I have used the technique many times, and noticed that if the saran wrap lays on the marblizer very long, it starts to wrinkle a little. That would cause the paint to accumulate under the wrap in little ridges... which when pulled might produce those "worms".

Again, I think spraying it heavy is part of what produced the pattern.

I think some test panel work might just reveal the key to the mystery.
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Hey guys I marbelized a bike tank & fender and used a hair drier held different distances from the seran wrap and the seran wrap wrinkled and had the lines like tree branches and the worm look was simaler to that!
The seran wrap wrinkled and drew up tight in patterns and wrinkles depending on the distance and direction you moved the gun!! But bike tanks are easy LOL Big areas on cars and to match it LOL I don't envy the work that thats going to take !!! How many brands of saran wrap will you have to test to see what brand will react like the origenal brand that was used did LOL

Talk him into a lace job LOL

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Good stuff guys, sometimes that is the fun of it, doing all those tests you can learn an awful lot.

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When the pros are stumped, things get even more interesting on here. Thanks for the thread Brian.
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can always end the strips at the hood..
don't think even the one that painted would be able to match it. it be like painting candy one panel at a time..
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Finding how to duplicate another person's art can be a puzzle, as things are used differently be each person, and maybe even some obscure creativity causes unusual artwork that the overall industry hasn't considered.

To get textures and effects I have used the usual lace and other fabrics... saran wrap for marblizing... cobwebbing... and all of the other common trends popular since the sixties.

Stepping a little, or a lot, outside the lines, I've used screen and mesh... netting... sponges... wadded paper... string... spray guns with no air cap... dribbled paint off of a paint stick... flicked toothbrushes... dry brushing... raffia... rhinestones... torn paper, and more. Always in search of a new technique or concept. I still have graphics ideas I have never seen used by anyone, but I can't find enough willing "victims". :-)~

This sort of thing can make it a problem duplicating an effect. This particular thread is just trying to figure out how to finness a very common technique. It could have been much worse! :-)

Here is the last marblizer job I did on a Synergy Green bagger. As you can see it was shot kind of wet, and is similar in pattern.
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In the 60's I had my car all ready to paint and it got over 100 ", I had a rented gun and compressor and was shooting Laquer, and was blowing cob webs at it. I followed advice and kept thinning and couldn't get it to lay on right. finally just said I'll just lay it on and try to finish it later. when It cured I started wet sanding with 400 and It looked like gold sand under glass, I rubbed it out and everyone asked how I had got that look, the top clear as glass and the sand underneath.
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