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This thread doesn't belong in the introduction forum any longer. Moving to the General Rodding Tech forum.

[Rob Keller]

Welcome to HOTRODDERS.com

If you go to the Site & Suggestions on the main outline in the bulletin board you will find a sticky{ a permanent thread} on how to down size you pixs.

I share you opinions on tires & wheels ,though not a fancy as yours But I do get more compliments on the wheels than the whole truck

Its not a tuner thou.

What do you think?

Let me know if you want some help with the photos.





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[41willys]

Honestly, my opinion, that is the last thing I would like to see on a car at a show. It just looks like something you would see at a show full of Hondas and stuff.

Jason

[dinger]

Hi Marty, welcome to the site. Interesting post, I've read somewhere that the majority of people looking at cars are drawn to the wheels first visually, I am one of them. You make some good points here, got me to thinking outside of the box a bit. I am into the black look, but with the right type of tire it could expand on that look for a wheel-tire combination. Nice looking Cobra also, wheels and tires draw out the look of the car. Not my cup of tea, but I can respect what you've done with some nice looking American iron. Thanks for sharing. Dan

[ChevelleSS_LS6]

Originally Posted by Centerline

Interesting take on dressing up tires. Probably would appeal more to the "Tuner" crowd than any other segment of the hobby.

or crotch rocket crowd... personally on 2 wheels I prefer to keep the sticky side down and ride safe, even if my bike is a 2007 ninja 650 (sitting on it is kinda upright, no laying on the fuel tank here ).

As for us hotrodders, I think fryin' em off at burnout contests are more of our specialty.

Still those are some really neat pics. A car is a canvas, and the enthusiast is the artist. That's how I feel. Some artists do dark and eerie stuff (like the guy who cut his ear off), others go simple and minimalistic, and others like the original canvas (think resto crowd) and yet others are totally insane like salavador dali with the, um, I forgot what its called but everything is out of place and they're sweet to look at. So on and so forth. Welcome

[ChevelleSS_LS6]

Originally Posted by dinger

Hi Marty, welcome to the site. Interesting post, I've read somewhere that the majority of people looking at cars are drawn to the wheels first visually, I am one of them. You make some good points here, got me to thinking outside of the box a bit. I am into the black look, but with the right type of tire it could expand on that look for a wheel-tire combination. Nice looking Cobra also, wheels and tires draw out the look of the car. Not my cup of tea, but I can respect what you've done with some nice looking American iron. Thanks for sharing. Dan

1. It's true about the rims are the first thing noticed for me too. Rims- it's style and proportion. Do they look right on the car?
2. black chrome is sweet!

[fiscus]

What are you guys using for painting in the raised letters on the tire sidewall? I have a set of tires with black letters that might look nice in colored in.

[hobbytires]

Originally Posted by 41willys

Honestly, my opinion, that is the last thing I would like to see on a car at a show. It just looks like something you would see at a show full of Hondas and stuff.

Jason

Some say the Willys won WWWII and its come a long ways to be what the Jeep looks like today with Renegade and Image of an Eagle on the hood, things change. My tire look is radical, no doubt and your opinion is appreciated. The right colors on the right vehicle do make a difference, just difficult to show it the way I'm presenting it, I guess. To me, a Black, Jeep with hot, red or yellow or white tire coloring on the images/logos would be hot. So far, no one has laughed or snickered at me during a car show, they do ask serious questions and I like that. Its just a choice and I do respect your thoughts, I need to try harder.

Thank You

[Notorious]

Originally Posted by schnitz

There's a car in the first pic????


In a while, Chet

Really, I especially like the one on the right! I'm much more of a modder than a polisher, show guy. But it's interesting, just not for me. It wouldn't help me anyway. I've had a Vette for almost five years and it hasn't got me any "action" yet! But I'm just a fugly old 50-something going on 18.....

[hobbytires]

Originally Posted by ChevelleSS_LS6

1. It's true about the rims are the first thing noticed for me too. Rims- it's style and proportion. Do they look right on the car?
2. black chrome is sweet!

The Cobra has done well at car shows. Of Course, this isn't really, just about car shows and yes, it is way out-side the box for one reason, no one has made it work. A black GT-500 for example, is beautiful as is. Now, envision that same car and same wheels and tires, but the tire lettering and logo enhanced in Hot-Iron-Red, that would just give the car another life life...,for me anyway. The Mystic's tires have different colored tires and wheels for this reason. I have done one side of the Cobra in Hot Iron Red, both tires. The public says, man, that's cool, can you do it in Yellow or Green or... Then I say, come over to the driver's side, WOW, Green and Yellow tires. In real-time, the tires and wheels are not criticized, they generate tons of, can you do this..., types of questions. I think that Black Chrome wheels are absolutely gorgeous and I would'nt touch them. I would do something to the tires though and it would be classy/cool.

The two types of wheels are used to give the viewer an idea of how colors can effect any wheel design. The mediums I use are not, Off The Shelf and I've tried it all to the point I know how to mix what to what and how much. Much of the success comes from as always, doing the proper preparation and the right ingredients and its not a cheap, slap & go process. One tire takes me about three days, times 4 = 12 days to do a set of tires depending on the mold design. Part of my masking process requires the use of jeweler's tools.

The color has to be flexible, non-chip, non-fade with UV barriers, non-toxic, non-corrosive to rubber, repel carbon black and withstand summer and winter temps. However, curb it and its gone, it is what it is, a cosmetic, but its tough. I have a new tire almost done, its a Miichelin 245/45Z-R417, 95W Pilot Exalto PE2 & cost $252.08 per tire. So, this is not a game with me, I do quality work with quality materials on quality products and this is not an advertisement for any tire company, I have no relationship Michelin (My CYA entry for the site, I'm not a seller, folks.)

I have until this year, just been doing tires and wheels for myself. After numerous compliments and requests, I decided to test what I was doing at car shows that were judged events. Actually, I went to three shows, two of which were judged and at both of those, the Cobra took Best In Class and one was a Best In Class of the Top three categories. No, it wasn't just the Cobra herself, it was also her tires and wheels, a simple fact.

So, this coming year will be very interesting for me, I have potential sponsorships from two local tire retailers and a group out of Missouri that sells tire dressings so, who knows? At least its fun and I don't want to commercialize it unless, there is real backing.

This is probably, more information than you wanted, but I appreciate your open attitude and thought you would find this interesting.

Of course, all the words in the world are not going to make these pictures look any better than they are, it takes some imagination and I thank you for yours.

[hobbytires]

Originally Posted by Notorious

Really, I especially like the one on the right! I'm much more of a modder than a polisher, show guy. But it's interesting, just not for me. It wouldn't help me anyway. I've had a Vette for almost five years and it hasn't got me any "action" yet! But I'm just a fugly old 50-something going on 18.....

That is funny, I'm sure your humor gets you into all the trouble you want? Oh, the one on the right, that is Ms. T, she is the owner of Queens Of Detail," and her group enjoys going to the shows and its good for her business as you can imagine. Its all about life and friends, we may as well enjoy it while we can.

Thank you.
P.S.
Anyone over 30 is going on 18.

[hobbytires]

Originally Posted by ChevelleSS_LS6

or crotch rocket crowd... personally on 2 wheels I prefer to keep the sticky side down and ride safe, even if my bike is a 2007 ninja 650 (sitting on it is kinda upright, no laying on the fuel tank here ).

As for us hotrodders, I think fryin' em off at burnout contests are more of our specialty.

Still those are some really neat pics. A car is a canvas, and the enthusiast is the artist. That's how I feel. Some artists do dark and eerie stuff (like the guy who cut his ear off), others go simple and minimalistic, and others like the original canvas (think resto crowd) and yet others are totally insane like salavador dali with the, um, I forgot what its called but everything is out of place and they're sweet to look at. So on and so forth. Welcome

Isn't the 2007 Ninja 650 the only model that came out with a safety belt and a complimentary copy of the Gideon bible? Actually, I think I belong in the Symbolist group of 1880, at least, that is where I feel most comfortable.

You are correct, this is and has been an up-hill march, but I'm up to the task and intend to get there dead or alive and with all body parts, Ha,Ha.

Thank You

[hobbytires]

[QUOTE=Rob Keller] Welcome to HOTRODDERS.com

If you go to the Site & Suggestions on the main outline in the bulletin board you will find a sticky{ a permanent thread} on how to down size you pixs.

I share you opinions on tires & wheels ,though not a fancy as yours But I do get more compliments on the wheels than the whole truck

Its not a tuner thou.

What do you think?

Let me know if you want some help with the photos.

Rob, I have the photo sizing thing under control and thanks for the offer. I like what you are doing and yes, people will notice the wheel over the Truck and or, sometimes the tire. This is funny and I'm sure you know it to be true: You can work your butt off doing the tires and people will come up and ask you where you bought the wheels!

Thing is, subconsciously, it was the tire that got their attention and brought them to the wheel. I have people ask me...,Where did you buy those wheels and they are actually, speaking about the tires!

Glad to see there is someone else out there that can see the opportunities available to enhancing the common tire. I like the white letter trim and the blue internal color. If, you can get a brighter color, well, I'll save that for later, I have get going, but can give you ideas later if, interested. Its a pain to have to pull the tires/wheels to do them, but I see you've learned what it takes to do it right, work. You don't have to be fancy to get a great tire on your truck, just the right colors, bright colors, the kind that reach out and gently grab people by the throat and make them wish they had your tires!


Thank You,
Let's speak about this again.