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Old 02-01-2006, 10:21 PM
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hidden nitrous

im trying to figure out the best way to hide nitrous on my big block...got a couple of races lined up for the spring that i wanna be ready for

the under the manifold system is out of the question...too much money

for plate systems i've seen people use factory style carb heat shields to cover up the plate and solinoid, but my buddy who im gonna race knows allllll about that

whats the best way to hide a nitrous system? especially with an older car (69 cutlass) also where can i hide a 10 pound bottle? hes obviously going to check the trunk....i was thinking maybe hiding it in the back seat?

any suggestions would be great

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Old 02-01-2006, 10:34 PM
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Well you can put the bottle inside of a gymbag or something. Thats an old trick but it might work. um false florr maybe?? um for under the hood. Just make up a BS story about how it is a carb restricter plate like they use in NASCAR. Cuz like your motor made too much power and you didn't want to twist your frame so you put a restricter on. If nothing else your friend will get a laugh at your lame excuse. SO Yea I geuss I didn't help much but..
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Old 02-01-2006, 10:52 PM
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People have hidden the solenoids and the like inside the air cleaner.... I've never done it but I know it's been done before.
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I've seen it in the air cleaner as well; factory piece complete with snorkel. Further, you can slide the braided steel nitrous lines through some rubber hose to hide them, too.
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Old 02-02-2006, 07:32 AM
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Hiden Nitrous System

There are all sorts of ways to hide items. Depending on how much HP you need to add, and how hard your competitors are going to look will dictate what you're going to spend to do it. We've run lines through transmissions into the back of the block, or even through the motor plates. It's all a matter of what you need.
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I always liked the hollow battery method ala Wayne County.
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I always liked the hollow battery method ala Wayne County.

"Battery" way too easy to spot
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The following is just personal opinion but think of it as a friendly warning as well.

Hiding NOS is tantamount to cheating. What's the pride in beating someone and not being honest about it. That's the trademark of a looser. If you can't race straight up with all your cards on the table why bother. Besides when the other guy finds out your running hidden NOS, and he eventually will not only will the word get out that your a cheater, but it's very likely you may have a few teeth rearranged in the process.
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I always liked the hollow battery method ala Wayne County.
ROFLMAO

that car always used to track right down the "line" didn't it
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The following is just personal opinion but think of it as a friendly warning as well.

Hiding NOS is tantamount to cheating. What's the pride in beating someone and not being honest about it. That's the trademark of a looser. If you can't race straight up with all your cards on the table why bother. Besides when the other guy finds out your running hidden NOS, and he eventually will not only will the word get out that your a cheater, but it's very likely you may have a few teeth rearranged in the process.
nah no teeth being re-arranged here, im sure hes looking for new ways to hide his system too


anyway i plan on using a 150 shot...i think im going to use a carb heat shield to mount the solinoids, and paint it the same as the engine. the i can take a carb spacer...drill and tap it and run fake lines to it


with a 150 shot how many runs could i get out of....say a 5 pound bottle?
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Part number NOS-05090NOS
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At 150 HP depending on when you activate it, you'll probably get about 3 good 1/4 mile passes.
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You are not really hiding anything with your plan. If the guy knows anything about hot rods he will spot the solenoids and lines. The only way to REALLY hide it is under the manifold, bringing the lines through the block and tranny, with the bottle under the back seat cushion.

What you are doing may fool a rookie, but not someone that has any car/race experience. I too question why you need to "hide" anything. Did you both agree not to use nitrous or a power adder? If not you are wasting your time trying to hide it.

I'm a little confused on the "need" to hide it. Just tell him he can't look under the hood, plumb your purge into your exhaust and call it good.
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The following is just personal opinion but think of it as a friendly warning as well.

Hiding NOS is tantamount to cheating. What's the pride in beating someone and not being honest about it. That's the trademark of a looser. If you can't race straight up with all your cards on the table why bother. Besides when the other guy finds out your running hidden NOS, and he eventually will not only will the word get out that your a cheater, but it's very likely you may have a few teeth rearranged in the process.
Point well taken Centerline and I respect that view.
My honest opinion is that in the world of racing it goes on at any level that there are technical rules to follow. It doesn't matter if it's a local circle track or a professional drag racer. My own philosophy on cheating is that it's not worth the risk to my reputation to do it. Because of that I've lost track Championships to known cheaters as well as customers who wanted me to go too far beyond what I felt was fair. Like most of the guys I know that build racing engines I spend countless hours looking for ways to interpret the rules in a way that I can find an advantage. People can take that statement anyway one pleases but in 25 years of building racing engines I've never had an engine bounced for any reason. I welcome the tech guys when they come around and it bothers me when I go to a track that has shoddy or almost non-existent engine teching. I don't have an issue with some creative bending of the rules. Blatantly breaking them is another thing entirely.
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I had a car with nitrous. I had the bottle hid in the right rear quarter panel. I just left the solenoids and plate in plain view. Inside the car between the seats I had a a set of brackets and a 2 foot piece of hose that run under the carpet. Just told the tech inspector the car was set up for n20 but the bottle was at home. They fell for it every week.
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