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Old 01-31-2005, 09:01 PM
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hey!!! whats wrong with star trek?


CAPT. KIRK ROCKS!!!!!!

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Old 02-01-2005, 01:33 AM
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The video I mentioned earlier does feature the clone A la Cart,
as stated before it was built by Ledbeter.
He built the car from scratch in 129 days, 130 if you count the time he took to decide to do it.The car is longer than the original and moved back on the frame, that was to get rid of the nose heavy look it had.
Barris and one of the original builders talk about the clone and are very complimentary. The original builder reckoned to trash about 5 fenders in making the car and stay on scedule was a miracle. The car was assembled the night before the show and fired up the first time, he got to Oakland an hour late !
The original was built from a quicky design Barris did on a napkin
and the owner did the chassis in San Fransisco while Barris beat the body out in L.A.
The original won two years running 1958 and ´59.
BTW the tape I watched was ´orrible, a British effort.
Another cool link http://www.timsykescruisenight.com/rods_customs.htm
this shows the Hirohata story

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Had to laugh, very fitting, sounds like, Ala Cart looks today just like me? Old and tired....

Somebody needs to e-mail Jay Leno....he'd buy and bring Ala Cart back!
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I get Jay Leno and Conan OBrien here on the weekend.
(Like Leno, not to sure about the Conan show.)
Why does´nt Leno have more car related people on his show,
and are there anything on tape or DVD about his car collection ?
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I have read about the Hirohita Merc all my life. As I recall, one of the more detailed and honest articles said the top of the car was a 100 point custom but underneath it was total trash. crappy welding, bordering on deadly and zero engineering, just thrown together to support the sheet metal.

And although I am an Ed Roth fanatic and the Mysterion, Beatnik Bandit and Outlaw are the three top show cars of all time, the Ala Kart is right up there on the top platform of the podium threatening to shove the latter two (NOTHING can touch the Mysterion!) off to lower levels.
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:53 AM
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I just got the first series of Overhaulin´on DVD and in the third program they make over a ´50 Ford. Chip Foose is at a car show giving out awards and "accidently" bumps into the Ford´s owner
Chuck de Herris, in the background can be seen an Ala Cart
which one, I don´t know.
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I have read about the Hirohita Merc all my life. As I recall, one of the more detailed and honest articles said the top of the car was a 100 point custom but underneath it was total trash. crappy welding, bordering on deadly and zero engineering, just thrown together to support the sheet metal.

And although I am an Ed Roth fanatic and the Mysterion, Beatnik Bandit and Outlaw are the three top show cars of all time, the Ala Kart is right up there on the top platform of the podium threatening to shove the latter two (NOTHING can touch the Mysterion!) off to lower levels.
Willys, I believe the Beatnik Bandit is at the Harrahs auto museum in Reno Nevada. I saw it there a few years ago.

I have seen a number of the legends "naked" and I can tell you, they were quite rough by todays standards, that is for sure. But then "todays" show cars are still pretty rough under all the glitter and gold. I was at a big west coast builders shop barbecue and was stunned to see one of this most famous cars with a few interior panels removed. This is a Duece highboy that won "Americas Most Beautiful Roadster" about 1980ish. It looked like CRAP under the upholstery. There was no paint where it wouldn't be needed once covered, nice and shiney red around the edges of the deck lid with over spray falling in toward the middle and then bare primer! Then there was wires hanging all over with no looms, black taped every once and a while to something. The tubing supporting the body in the trunk wasn't eve painted as I remember. It was disgraceful as far as I am concerned.
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Yes, the Bandit is there but now they call it National Heritage Museum. Bandit II, the Finkmobile and a few of his later custom little red wagons are there too. The Outlaw is owned by the Petersen Automotive Museum Los Angles California. Mark Moriarity (see this) has the restored Road Agent and Globe Hopper.


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I don't know if you ever met the man but he was a real cut up. He used to man the T shirt booth at the Oakland Roadster show most every year. I would talk to him, but even hanging around listening to him with others was entertaining.

He even used an idea a buddy of mine gave him. My buddy rolled up in his wheel chair and suggested he do a shirt with a Rat fink in a wheel chair pulling a wheelie and smoken the tires. Sure enough, the next time we saw him he had the shirt on sale!
He was one of a kind, that is for sure.
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Ed was an artest alright. I got to know him real good during the ten years we traveled the show circuit.

Did you know that when he was on the road with the show that he lived in his pickup and his little trailer that he hauled one of his cars and his T shirt booth in?

He gave me this poster on Masonite with a personal message on it about one of our road experiences. some where in several thousand photos of our travels I have a few hundred of him at work and play.

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Very cool Troy, that is a treasure.
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Ed was an artest alright. I got to know him real good during the ten years we traveled the show circuit.

Did you know that when he was on the road with the show that he lived in his pickup and his little trailer that he hauled one of his cars and his T shirt booth in?

He gave me this poster on Masonite with a personal message on it about one of our road experiences. some where in several thousand photos of our travels I have a few hundred of him at work and play.

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Ok, now that I know you were that close to the guy I have to grovel about seeing some of those photos. Do you have any of the Mysterion?

I have the two videos of him building the LA Zoom and the Road Angel motor cycle. That's the one he drove from Utah to the Street Rod Nationals in Kansas City(?) and the idiots wouldn't let Ed Roth into the even 'cause his bike wasn't pre-'48 so he turned around and drove home! NSRA is just slightly less brain dead than Good Guys, but not much.

Is amyone impressed how I can turn any thread into a discussion of Ed Roth and the Mysterion? I impress myself!!
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Hey Brian,

You can see your favorite just about anytime. Just a trip to Mojave....


Gene leaves it outside most of the time...



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I'll try to sort out some of them. Some are from many years before our touring time, as I had meet him a long time ago. ( 1950s ).

When he gave me the poster, that was his last ISCA show, he said he was going home and marry his sweetheart. That was in 97 in Abilene Texas. That was the last time I seen him. He didn't live very long after that.

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