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Hirohata Merc............

Anybody got any indepth info on this car?I know it was built by Barris in the 50s and recently restored but where has it been between then and now.Any books written on this car?Any info would be great.Thanks

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The Merc

Last seen in Amelia Island Fl. March 2004 the guy in the gold jacket I am told is George Barris
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There`was an article in Old autos newspaper, (a local enthusiasts paper) that it spent a number of years up here in Canada. It was then discovered what it really was and restored............not sure of the truth in that story.
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As I remember the second owner kept it and the restauration was covered in Hot Rod..
http://www.customclinic.com/fullcust.../hirohata.html

http://www.petersen.org/default.cfm?...1813&CarID=181

Just for a laugh go http://www.barris.com/index.html
and sit through the intro.

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Wow! That was a trip down memory lane going thru the gallery on the Barris site.....saw most of those show cars in person over the years.....

He is stillin good health, was on Car Crazy a short time ago, they did a "tribute" outdoor show of his cars.

Where's "Ala Carte"? Still my all time favorite. A tiny bit of updating and clean up (door handles etc.) and it would contend for the Riddler...or somebody ought to do it as a kit car.

You are amazing with the great links you post, can't imagine what all your "favorites" links are...
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Calling on rotted out memory banks again, I think there was a replica of Ala Cart made, but they didīnt stay that true.
Some alterations were made in the length of the hood.
Reckon the original was restored.
Gotta find out.
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Just back from rakinīaround in the garage and came up with this.
Itīs a video called Star Cars & Bikes of Oakland ī96 and it looks like Ala Cart or the replica were there. Itīs a long time since Iīve watched the tape so Iīll get back later.
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96' at Oakland is good enough answer for me, nostalgia cars were already big time by then, it's out there some where...

yeah, the Ala Carte hood needed to be fixed. It was 3 piece to show the motor and keep the show lines of the headlight bezels into the hood. looked kinda yuchy with the top piece on.
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Ok, the Ala Kart replica, that was built and does exist. A guy by the name of Howdy Ledbeter built it. He lives in my town, he always has something cool over there.
Now I can't remember, was the original distroyed in the Barris fire? I know the "Kopper Kart" was. I seem to remember the Ala Kart in a picture all in pieces and that is the way it has been since 1970 or so.


The thing is, there was a replica (a perfect replica) of the Hirohita Merc as well.

How about the "El Matidor", now that we are talking about rebuilds. Have any of you ever seen the work that went into rebuilding that mess? And then the most bizare part,the guy puts a 5.0 and Mustang suspension??????? Why in the world would you want to go thru such work to restore the original body only to not end up with little more than a copy anyway?
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Calling on rotted out memory banks again, I think there was a replica of Ala Cart made, but they didīnt stay that true.
Some alterations were made in the length of the hood.
Reckon the original was restored.
Gotta find out.
....Ala Kart is owned by Roy Brizio and at the 50th anniversary show at Oakland it was there unrestored and looking kind of ratty and to me it was like lookin at a ghost,so bizzare to finelly see something ive seen in books all my life and then to see it 2 feet in front of you.It was off to the side in one of the walkways,people just walking by this worn out T bucket,not knowing what it was.Im glad I got to see it unrestored I went to this show too see 3 cars,The Hirohata Merc,Ala cart and Gray Baskervilles 32 Ford. didnt get to see Grays 32.Ala Kart 2 was built by Howdy Ledbetter here in Fremont.

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I do remember seeing the ALa Kart at that show! Ok, how about the Deora Jeff, did you see that at the show this year (I know, not the "Oakland" show but it is all we have now) . One of the Alexander bros was even there to talk to you about it. That blew me away, one of my favorite sixties customs.
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The Herohita ( clone ) was built and still owned by Jack Walker from the Kansas City area.

He owns several of the old famous show cars, and leases them out as feature cares at the big shows.

He also has the blue roadster pickup that Ray Farnner of Kansas City built. ( can't recall the name of it right now )

Some of Jacks cars are on display at the Starbird Museum in Afton Okla.

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Yes I did see the Deora there,I didnt know if it was the real one and then I saw the green truck,I think it was the Grass Hopper and then I figured it might be the real deal.I think this truck won AMBR in 59 and I think its the only truck to win this honor.Speaking of that show what a waste of time,I wont be going back anytime soon.Although that black 35 Chevy was awesome.The flames on that thing were like none ive ever seen.

When I saw the Hirohata Merc at Oakland years ago was this the clone or the real car?
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Probably the clone, it has been around for a long time. I think the org. was just discovered and restored recently.

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Jeff, one of my favorites, Gene Winfields "The Reactor" was also there again this year. When I was a kid I bought a Petersons publishing "How to do body work and paint" book. Among all the lame "How to install a bubble window in a van" and crap like that was a number of pages showing the construction of this hand built aluminum beauty. It was the first time I had ever seen someone MAKE panels. I had never even thought about it, you could actually do that. The photos of Gene bending the hood panel over a round saw horse, him welding the seam down the quarter, these images were burned into my brain. I had not seen the book in a few of decades, I didn't know what happened to it. I asked my brother to be on the look out if he saw one pick it up for me. He did one day, I opened it up and it was like going back in time to when I was 15. Seeing that car in person and talking to Gene about it was wild.

Here it is when it was on Star Trek (gag me) it was also on Bewitched (Samantha was hot!).

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