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Old 06-15-2010, 11:28 AM
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Holley Street Dominator with Winters Snowflake?

Help, picked this up at a yard sale and can't find any info on the net about the part number. It's a Holley Street Dominator, model 701R-19 or 300-19, both are cast in the bottom, it has a SBC firing order and cyl numbers, it's a high rise single plane. I'm guessing it's a factory upgrade for maybe a Camaro or Vette, any ideas?
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This is unusual, First time I ever seen a open plane intake with a EGR port.
I think what you have was bought off the shelf or ordered. The Holley "Z" manifold is almost identical to it, except it had a divider plate and had a extra runner connecting the back 2 runners together to add volume to the number 7 runner since 5 robs 7 as they are right behind each other and beside each other in the firing order. The "Z" intake was designed by Zora Arkus Duntov, but they didn`t keep the intake in production a real long time.
The intake you have is the basic street dominator with a EGR port cast at the winters foundry likely since Holley didn`t have a foundry near at the time. It`s not a factory item, that`s for sure.
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Not a factory upgrade, this was sold at parts stores and speed shops. There were other intakes called Street Dominators, had different numbers (-35, -36, -38, -3001, and likely others). Some were dual plane intakes, and the one that was a clone of the Z/28 intake was actually a good manifold (I don't know which one it was). Others were more of a low/medium rise intake, better suited to a mild engine, and yet others were single plane.

The single plane (-19, like yours and -35, etc.) wasn't as well received as some of the dual plane intakes, but is a decent intake for what it is.

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Not a factory upgrade, this was sold at parts stores and speed shops. There were other intakes called Street Dominators, had different numbers (-35, -36, -38, -3001, and likely others). Some were dual plane intakes, and the one that was a clone of the Z/28 intake was actually a good manifold (I don't know which one it was). Others were more of a low/medium rise intake, better suited to a mild engine, and yet others were single plane.

The single plane (-19, like yours and -35, etc.) wasn't as well received as some of the dual plane intakes, but is a decent intake for what it is.

Why Holley did that is beyond me, it sure causes a lot of confusion when trying to identify their intakes. The Z/28 clone was the 300-36 IIRC, an excellent manifold. The other dual plane "Street Dominator" was the 300-38 and it was basically a copy of the standard factory intake.

DV, EGR single planes were common in the late 70's early 80's.
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So, Holley had Winters cast some intakes right? And it may have been in the 70's or 80's? It may have been an aftermarket part. Yet I can't find any reference for the numbers, I've found plenty on the Street Dominator, plenty on the 300-38/35/36 ect. Nothing on the 300-19 or an application, am I crazy wondering with the firing order, cyl numbers cast in it and the Winters mark it may be a special order. Has anybody seen a Holley similar with the Flake and numbers, not by design?
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So, Holley had Winters cast some intakes right?
Right. Street Dom, Strip Dom, possibly others.

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And it may have been in the 70's or 80's? It may have been an aftermarket part.
It WAS an aftermarket part- there is no GM p/n that would be present if it were a "factory" offering, either RPO or over the dealership counter- like the cross ram intake used on the Z/28.

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Yet I can't find any reference for the numbers, I've found plenty on the Street Dominator, plenty on the 300-38/35/36 ect. Nothing on the 300-19 or an application
My only guess is that it wasn't a popular intake, and has been largely "lost" to the ages.

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am I crazy wondering with the firing order, cyl numbers cast in it and the Winters mark it may be a special order.
I don't know about "crazy", maybe just wishful...

But the cast in firing order/numbered runners was on many Holley intakes. As was the Winters foundry snowflake.
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So, Holley had Winters cast some intakes right? And it may have been in the 70's or 80's? It may have been an aftermarket part. Yet I can't find any reference for the numbers, I've found plenty on the Street Dominator, plenty on the 300-38/35/36 ect. Nothing on the 300-19 or an application, am I crazy wondering with the firing order, cyl numbers cast in it and the Winters mark it may be a special order. Has anybody seen a Holley similar with the Flake and numbers, not by design?
The info you have been given about the intake in question is correct, just because an aluminum intake has a Winters snowflake cast into it doesn't make it a rare factory piece. Winters cast for whomever made a deal with them, they were not GM or Chevrolet exclusively.

At one time I had a Holley intake, can't recall the # but it was the Holley
Z" Series manifold made in the late 70's/early 80's, a short single plane with EGR ports that looks just like the one posted but had a weird crossover port that snaked around the back section of it connecting the two rear runners, 7 and 8 together, along with a cast in plenum divider. Supposedly had design help from Zora Arkus-Duntov(Hence the 'Z' designation). It was Firing Order numbered and numbered for each cylinder just above the port outlet to the heads.
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I didn`t know that Hippie, but you gotta look at my age. I was hatched in `74, so I didn`t know what was going on the the late 70`s and early 80`s.
I knew my wrench sizes by the time I was 5, and could do some things, but as for other stuff like EGR`s I didn`t have a clue what any of it was.
Holley has somewhat created confusion in there line of intakes. Used to be the street dominator was a single plane intake, now it`s a dual plane. At one time I remember seeing there name all over any kind of circle track races and they had all kinds of intakes offered for it. I remember thinking "I`ve never seen a company spend this kind of time and money on intake developement for circle jerk racing" It seemed there name was all you saw. Then it got to where I didn`t see them around anymore. I wish they would bring back the Weiand Xcelerator high rise with divider plate and make it for Vortec heads, but I doubt that`ll happen. In fact, I haven`t seen a low rise single plane intake for Vortec heads yet.
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Lost to the ages sounds right! Normally I can find anything on the net, I hit a wall with this. I just figured it was a GM over the counter offering from the late 60's early 70's, thanks for the help everybody..
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Lost to the ages sounds right! Normally I can find anything on the net, I hit a wall with this. I just figured it was a GM over the counter offering from the late 60's early 70's, thanks for the help everybody..
You won't find much on the older intakes on the web. The 300-19 was a direct competitor to the Edelbrock Torker and was actually quite popular, not nearly as popular as the Torker though. Add a plenum divider and it would be an "ok" intake until something better popped up. The "Z" series mentioned above actually worked fairly well.
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