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Old 05-22-2003, 05:44 PM
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Hi Guys;New member here. I'm having a problem getting my F100 pickup hood painted the same on both sides. I'v searched the old posts, but couldn't find the right answer.
Here's what's happening;I live in a remote area with only 3 bodyshops and 6 guys working from their own garages. I would like to have my hood finished and painted on both sides. I'm going to install a reverse hood hinge and I want the inside of the hood to look as well as the outside. I'm having this fellow paint my entire truck dissassembled, piece by piece, and then reassembled. He tells me he can't guarantee that the underside will look as good as the topside. He pointed out to me that there are some ripples and dings that if he was to use filler and smooth it out, that it may crack because of the stresses applied to the hood and the excessive heat from the engine. I find that hard to believe. I've seen some real nice hoods painted on both sides at the F100 Nationals.
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Old 05-22-2003, 08:10 PM
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It just has to be prepped properly and painted just the same as the top. I did mine before painting the exterior and then masked the bottom to prevent overspray. Since it has some bracing to break up the surface, it will not show little blemishes like the top of the hood. You will not be looking across the bottom of the hood like the top making small digs from the top less noticable.

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Sounds to me like you need to find someone else to do your work. Hoods are repaired all of the time. Sounds like he is planning on using a shovel and trowel to put on filler. I am not sure what year truck you have, but most older trucks have pretty strong hoods. They also have some metal to work with. Someone that knows what they are doing would be able to take out minor damage without using much filler. If they are doing that bad of work, tell them to use lead for filler. They shouldn't have to worry about brain damage from the lead, it's already been done.

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Hey Guys, this was my first post as a new member and I appriciate your feedback. Sharky we don't need comments like yours. This doesn't help matters out. Adtkart and TurboS10 thank you for responding. My truck is a 53 F100 and the guy doing the work on it has done some great work. Unfortunately, where I live there aren't that many bodymen around. Most of them repair auto insurance type work, if you know what I mean. Still looking for more tech answers to my problem.
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I build show cars, if your hood is very rough and you want it perfect for shows. Heres my advice for what it is worth? It would be cheaper in the long run to start with a new hood ,or a perfect used one.
Your hood can be worked, but from both sides would cost more than a new one, plus it is a big chunk of sheetmetal and is flexible, very hard to get perfect. Then there is the problem of heat from the eng. It expands the metal at a different rate than the filler since it is so flexible, it would not stay straight very long.
That is why ins. co. replace the hoods on most hail damage cars. Very much filler on a hood makes them to heavy for the springs.

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Thanks Troy Curt and the rest of you guys.
The hood is from a 1953 F100 pickup that's being worked on. By far it's one of the finest looking one that I bought at a swap meet. It almost looks like a NOS hood, however it had a couple, may be a few little dings to it, and when it was reworked the first time around, the body guy hammered and dollied the dings out to make the top real smooth (like glass)- but he left the underside with his hammered dings taking out the dings and using very little filler on the top side. Now, maybe I'm asking for the impossible. I want the underside to look as well as the top side. The hood is not rough at all. But when it's painted a dark garnnet maroon (solid color, no metal flake etc.) it may show those dings on the under side. Can you use an all metal filler on these small dings? Or maybe I should notworry about installing a reverse hinged hood and just go with the original hbinges at the cowl sids?
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There is a problem with repairing a hood and expecting perfection on the inside. It takes a special kind of body person(being politically correct) to do those kinds of repairs. It has to be an artist, not the average body man. The average bodyman nowdays only knows how to get the damage relatively close to straight, then use filler. Like Troy said, much filler at all on the hood will be too heavy for the hinges. Insurance companies do replace hoods for hail damage. The main reason for that, is the lack of material to repair and the flexability of the panels. The newer cars have no metal to straighten. If that hood only has marks from hammering, they may be filled with high-fill primer. Another choice may be to install insulation to the hood. That would leave the bracing visible. A good finish on that should be relatively easy. Remember, the work done for insurance companies usually is not the quality wanted for a street rod.
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Great responses, except Sharky needs to get lost!!, saw a 54 F100 in one of our shows and had won lots of shows on the West coast curcuit. Also had the forward tilt hood. He had used body Shutlz under the hood and it really looked good. It was painted black same as the truck. It breaks up the underside and gives the engine compartment look. I use Shultz on all the inner fenders and running boards then paint the same color as car. Still win shows. Just an idea!! Good Luck.
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Old 05-27-2003, 07:16 AM
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Hi Snkbyt; Where can you buy this Shultz material and what is it? Does it look like undercoating and you say you can paint right over it? Sound good to me, but I need more info about it. By the way your vehicles look real nice. Yeh, this is a great site, especially with guys like you, adtkart,turboS10,Halloweenking and a few others. We can leave Sharky to the sharks.
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