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Old 09-07-2005, 02:36 PM
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Hot rod art by chip foose

does anyone know where i can learn how to draw like him. i did some search on google but i think im using wrong keywords because i get nothing relevant to what work he does. Does anyone know what exactly its called besides hot rod art or hot rod drawing?

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Your either born with the natural ability to draw like he does or you take basic art classes and practice every chance you get.

Most of the great ones were drawing in class instead of doing class work.
You just don't learn it!
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:15 PM
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Most of the great ones were drawing in class instead of doing class work. You just don't learn it!
If you don't have any talent to draw now or an eye to sketch anything, you are not going to learn by going to class. Art is a talent that either you have or you don't. The art schools teach you to hone what you have.

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Old 09-07-2005, 06:01 PM
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we need a seperate forum for this stuff?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:24 PM
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Art comes from within...You cannot be taught a natural talent like drawing.
But...try looking up Automotive Illustration or Transportation Design.
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Id say drawing is part talent and part hard work from my stand point on it.
I can draw pretty well, not like chip foose, but still not to bad. Im from more of a creative family, such as my mom was well known around our area from her painting on arts and crafts. Anyway, I could draw ok Id say when I was younger, but I took a couple of classes my high school had and it really helped. I used to draw and practice every chance I had.
Lately, Ive started drawing again, Im supposed to be working on a drawing for the Virtual Kustomz thread, but haven't had the chance lately(or the patience, damn ADD )

But one misconception that people think about drawing though, is that they think they can sit down and draw an outstanding sketch in just 5 minutes. Wrong, it takes a good while to get a good drawing to look right. For a half-assed drawing that looks similar to what its supposed to be, itll take me about 45 min. But for better ones like the one that I posted in the Virtual Kustomz thread, It took me about 2 days to get that one done.


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Don't be discouraged by the general misconception about being born an artist. Not that many centuries ago in Europe it was a trade that was apprenticed just like carpentry and auto mechanics are today. Learning to print and write is the very basics of learning to draw and anybody that applies themselves to it can become more than proficient at it. It is 40% desire and 60% hard work. Get some help from books on basic car or hotrod drawing and follow them diligently, leaving out nothing in the process. The more you apply yourself the quicker you'll see results but Chip didn't start drawing yesterday. If you are going to draw something you like find good quality art work to start with. The artists have already solved most of the problems in making the picture look realistic. Trying to draw from life is a hard place to start. I'll look up some good book titles for getting started and post them.
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:34 AM
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Illustration is the keyword rather than drawing, take a look through this,
http://roadsters.com/art/#illustrators
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Don't be discouraged by the general misconception about being born an artist.
Don't be discouraged as you can learn some techniques, but I think it is a talent that you have to be born with. When I was very young I could draw buildings, sheds, etc, as long as they were straight lined. I could do isometric sketches. As far as any other type of drawing...forget it. I took mechanical drawing in school and within a week was helping all of the other students. It was a talent I was born with. And don't think drawing with a pencil and a ruler is that easy either. At 17 I became a Tool Designer for the local business that made aluminum extrusion. I was designing various tools and dies to make the extrusions. At 19 I went to work as a Tool Designer for another local business that makes automotive bearings. At this time, nothing was done on computer. I hated sitting behoind a desk so I became a Tool and Die maker. That was 30 some years ago I started. Now Weimer on the other hand is opposite. He is not as talented at doing drafting type of work, but when he was very young, and I would say 6 or 7, he started doing drawings of cars and buildings. Many times I accused him of tracing something out of a magazine until he showed me the little picture he drew it from. Later on he started doing faces. He is very talented when it comes to drawing. So I think it really is something that you need to be born with. Like I said before, classes and reading will let you hone the skill, but if you don't have the talent to begin with I think you are pretty much out of luck. If everyone could take some art classes and draw like Chip Foose, Kenny Youngblood, and many of the other talented artist, the world would be flooded with them. You have to have an eye forsomething like that. My extent of drawing l;ooks more like something out of a preschoolers coloring book. But to me so does some of the artist like Van Gogh!!!!
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So I think it really is something that you need to be born with. Like I said before, classes and reading will let you hone the skill, but if you don't have the talent to begin with I think you are pretty much out of luck. If everyone could take some art classes and draw like Chip Foose, Kenny Youngblood, and many of the other talented artist, the world would be flooded with them!
Learning to draw like Chip Foose, Kenny Youngblood and just about anyone that is an accomplished illustrator of cars is not something you will learn from a few art classes, but like any apprenticeship, if you start with the basics you can end up with an acquired skill and this is more likely to happen if you are under twenty than if you are already involved in life with a young family and job responsibilities. I'd like to encourage anyone that wants to improve their chances from whatever their basic skill or talent is presently. Don't be fooled into thinking that because someone has an eye for detail or perspective or ten years of practice under their belt that you should just throw in the towel. Most have been encouraged from an early age and have spent countless hours working on perfecting their skills but if you start out with the best helps and put your mind to it, you can learn more than conventional wisdom will admit. One of the books that I had in mind is published through Airbrush Action Magazine. You can go on line at www.airbrushaction.com and I haven't kept up with their mag but several years ago they were advertising a paperback titled "Cartooning" by Don Edwards. I checked out Amazon.com and they had it but listed it for around $75. as a collector's item. It was advertised in the mag for $12.95 in '98. It looked like an excellent place to get started and with all the help from any books of this type, the most common failure is to try to take short cuts or leave out steps in the process and not follow to the letter what ever is being taught. This will usually end in discouragement. There is no fast way to become proficient in something like this "or there would be a world flooded with accomplished artists." Believe it can be done and put in the required effort. I've seen it happen.
That link to roadsters.com from Malc certainly has some inspiring work and there may be some place there to find help but most of the work is finished and not a how-to presentation. I also found Airbrush Action to have some good information although it was more advanced than just the basics however there was a fair bit of emphasis on cars and bikes as well as general illustrating.
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You can learn technical drawing. You can learn techniques of sketching, painting, sculpting and other art. You can't learn to be a creative artist. This is why you can have millions of people cranking out blueprints for widgets or illustrations of products (existing or to be) but only one Da Vinci.

Use one eye to look at a model car and don't let your head interpret the flat view that you get into the 3d object that you know it is. Now just duplicate the lines on paper. Check out Da Vinci's plain technical drawings for developing perspective. Those are not what made him great but they are elements he used within those creations that are considered great. If he had rendered the Mona Lisa with just math and geometry, nobody would remember it.
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You might want to check out this book. My bookstore here doesn't carry it, so I can't personally recommend it, but Thom Taylor was a very influential designer back in the day, doing work for Boyd Coddington, such as CadZZilla and the like. Here's the link,

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...59312?v=glance

As for developing an artistic talent, you just gotta practice. I do believe that you are somewhat born with it, but if you keep practicing and reading up on different techniques, you can't help but get better! Good Luck,
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Excellent Link

Thom Taylor has excellent work in this book. You can go inside the book at the link given and see one of the examples. This is the best way to gain knowledge. Practice and don't be discouraged. When doing the outline, get that right before starting the detail. If you start with the detail and then find out something is wrong with the outline you will be too discouraged to fix it or you won't bother to fix it and it will plague you every time you look at it.
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I just thought that some of you might like to see Christian Denayer's artwork. I grew up reading comic books with his stuff.


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Foose is an Art Center graduate I believe. It's the top school for transportation as far as design, concept, etc. I didn't have the bucks or talent to get in there 35 years ago so went to the University of Cincinnati to learn product design after I already knew the basics of drawing. Drawing automobiles or anything else for that matter can be taught if you are willing to learn. Lots of hours of practice are required to get anywhere near "good". The talented ones just seem to be able to picture what they want and draw it once they learn what "their" technique is.
Today the big difference is computer aided design or CAD for short. Most schools that are decent at teaching design (and some that aren't) have the latest CAD equipment so you can create realistic concept art that looks like a photo of a real car. You can also play with it and simulate drawing styles and media as well. Foose has said he likes to sketch his designs and so do I. I'm not nearly as good as he is for quickly putting ideas down on paper that have such a good composition or style. He traces the basic car with pencil before using the markers to color it. That is what increases the speed. That's also what gets you a job in design or any illustrative field is the speed and quality of the thing you are creating.
If you just want to learn how to draw cars find a local art school or art program to begin learning the basics of how to draw, color, render with different media, etc. Drawing the cars will be up to you once you've learned the "process" of art creation. Good luck!
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