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Just a quick update.

Looking like a GM metric frame, channel in frame rails to keep ride height low.

The car already has somewhat of a fake driveline tunnel in it not the flat floor so using the stock floor pan means everything will bolt right back in.

Wheelbase is the same at 108". Width seems to be in question. Toro is 1.8" wider so looking at getting tires to fit in stock wheel wells.

Want to learn more about the Northstar before using one.

Toying with a 350 or maybe a ZZ 427 from GM performance.

Still hearing more why's, whatevers, and Think you are crazies.... But when I sit in that car and talk to Daddy about it he says go for it!

Thanks for welcoming me to the forum and all the input.

Project journal to follow so you can watch the insanity!

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The metric chassis has a ton of aftermarket support and a 1.8 difference in width is nothing. That's less then an inch per side and is easily remedied with the right width and offset wheel.
Post some pics as you get it going.
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go back to the Cobalt video? Ask dad if thats what he would have done? If you have time/$/skills then so your something different,or do a beige clone of everything common...
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No need to scramble your brains trying to figure out how to make a stock engine management system work. Megasquirt MS2 or MS3 could easily be used to run a Northstar engine or any fi engine for that matter.
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go back to the Cobalt video? Ask dad if thats what he would have done? If you have time/$/skills then so your something different,or do a beige clone of everything common...
What would you suggest?
Have seen many Colbalts, mid engine corvairs, and V8 Vegas, but no RWD 92 Toronados yet.
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Hard to get " RWD 92 Toronado". Try more common FWD only cars. Its just badge engineering, your dads toronado wasn't much different than an 86 celebrity eurosport. Just about any car mag from the early 90s is going to have articles on them. Plenty of Pro Street Chevy Berettas, Dodge Daytonas, Dodge Omni's and Chevy Celebrity's were built in the late 80s and early 90s. Rick Dobbertin built a Pro Street Pontiac Sunbird J2000 back then too.

Mopar used to offer a RWD "kit" for the Daytona compact, I'd assume it was to build a Pro Stock car.

I always thought it'd be cool to go with a turbo Mitsu Eclipse motor with a TH350 or T56 behind it in a light car. Incredible power, RWD orientation and light weight.

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Juice and Cookies club seems to have reacheda decision.

Think it'll just be a good old American V8. The "Engine Control Module" will be my ear, one of those pocket screwdrivers and my right foot.

May not be anything exotic to it other than it being a RWD 92 Toro, but it'll be fun to play with.

Too old for anything that isn't fun.
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Fun is what modifying cars is all about.Being a good fabricator is what allows you to do more.Your project has no particular rules to follow.
Your project is more than I would want to tackle,because;It will take a long time,,,,
I'm a driver kind of hot rodder.I like the fast car "now".I would buy good heads rather than port my own,etc.
If you want something outrageous and you have skills ,build it.

HOW?...
good question, look at everyone else different car and take pictures
make the same or similar or
combine 2 different ideas from 2 different cars

Heres an example of what I did years ago and then a guy like you came along and made his better

almost 20 years ago I bought a portable saw mill( turn small trees into usable lumber)The machine could cut 20 foot logs up to 3 foot diameter into lumber using a horizontal bandsaw blade.
I bought the unit,it came with a 25 horse Kohler 2 cylinder engine.I bought a small Kubota 4 cylinder turbo diesel and adapted it.That was my idea of hot rodding and well with in my ability.
My soon to be friend,looked at my mill and asked if he could take pictures.
He soon made a copy,not a clone just similar.Instead of an expensive brand new turbo diesel,he used a very small used car engine(more power too)and instead of using a known shiv system for the banb,he used "FREE" space saver tires.He also made many other low cost improvements.His final finished machine was not only faster with many improvements,it was 1/4 the cost.
you decide where you fit in for a project that you have in mind.
remember that every finished product is somebodies back yard design. enjoy
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