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snowraker 04-06-2013 06:12 PM

How about a "windowless" Vicky
 
I can't find door glass anywhere for my Vicky. You'd think with all of these unfinished and unsalable street beast kits out there, parts could be found at the usual places. No doubt some glass supplier somewhere probably built this stuff for them, but they don't want to be found. Companies advertise for custom windows, but when you call, all they sell is an electric actuator.

Since I am going to patina this thing anyway, maybe no door glass is needed. Would save on an air conditioner and a compressor and all the plumbing as well. Maybe even glass in the channels. Rat rod all the way?

Any input appreciated.

sedanbob 04-06-2013 06:43 PM

Are you just missing the glass, or framing/garnish moldings? If it's just the glass, any glass company should be able to cut you a piece of safety glass.

MARTINSR 04-06-2013 06:46 PM

You can easily make it all, just because you can't get the authorized "Street beast" components doesn't mean a thing, just make what you need. On the glass it's self you make a pattern and bring it to the glass shop and they will cut it out for you. There are channels that the glass sits in that are readily available, post some photos of your doors and let's get at figuring out how to do this.


Brian

Richiehd 04-06-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MARTINSR (Post 1663686)
You can easily make it all, just because you can't get the authorized "Street beast" components doesn't mean a thing, just make what you need. On the glass it's self you make a pattern and bring it to the glass shop and they will cut it out for you. There are channels that the glass sits in that are readily available, post some photos of your doors and let's get at figuring out how to do this.


Brian

I have used masonite in the past, cheap, easy to cut and work with, and its about the right thickness. Make the patterns take to glass shop, easy. Just dont try driving around the block!

MARTINSR 04-06-2013 08:58 PM

Yep Tempered Masonite is my choice.


Brian

poncho62 04-07-2013 04:58 AM

Pretty sure a vehicle that you cant see out of the side would be illegal

delawarebill 04-07-2013 07:17 AM

no windows ????
 
you WILL get caught in the rain.. i've had buckets for 13 yrs and i can count on one hand how many times i've been... SUPRISE !!
and your wet.. u better build it that way just in case.. cause it ain't fun... but thats the way it goes..

Irelands child 04-07-2013 05:32 PM

Any decent glass shop can make those windows - nothing but straight pieces of glass. Better yet make templates, allowing for bedding material and take to a glass shop. Just make sure you get the right glass for the sides and windshield - they are different

snowraker 04-08-2013 06:02 PM

Windowless Vicky
 
Thanks for the interest in my post. All I need help with is door glass. Pix may be attached, not sure camera batteries low. According to my build manual, the door glass is contoured. Looks to me like flat glass will work? The manual lists five different components: window support, adjustable window channel (lt/rt specific), regulator, felt, and glass. The integral rear channel in the picture measures 11/16" wide, 1/2" deep. None of this seems difficult, but all the pieces have to fit each other. Maybe I am being too picky, but if one part is out of spec, I'm going to have problems.

PatM 04-08-2013 06:23 PM

A glass shop can help. Some have templates dating to the thirties, course, yours may be different. You need to provide a template, an accurate measurement of the channel width and the channel in the lifter. The glass shop can cut the glass, provide correct seating tape for the lifter, and correct (the proper name escapes me) felts for the channels. All with one easy stop.

Others may think of something else the shop will need, but it should be easy assuming it's flat glass.

PatM

snowraker 04-09-2013 07:17 AM

Windowless Vicky
 
3 Attachment(s)
2nd attempt to add pix.

MARTINSR 04-09-2013 08:16 AM

Is the opening of the window curved or not?

You don't need to go by what they had in the Streetbeast plans, yo can make anything you want to work. A straight line from top to bottom on the channels is number one. It can be leaning but it needs to be straight. Make these channels then make a template out of card board that fits in there and slides up and down these channels into position then back into the door. Then using that template make one from 1/4" tempered masonite. This will represent a piece of glass perfectly so if there is something cockeyed about your channel you will know because it won't go up and down freely.

Once you have that you get a regulator and mount it so it pulls your "window" up and down. This could be a factory regulator out of a car which these days have gotten so small it may be a way to go, sorry I have no suggestions on which one. But these days there are all kids of them that aren't a "scissor" like regulator but a very simple cable operated one. You mount it in a vertical position in the middle of the door and it is self contained without any other channels or anything and it pulls the glass up and down using cables.

But this isn't a big deal if you take one step at a time. First things first, make up a template and see if the channels you have in there will work.

Brian

snowraker 04-10-2013 04:17 PM

Vicky Door glass
 
Thanks, Brian. I found that the removable channel from a 1952 Chevy pickup door is almost identical to the one welded in the Vicky door from the factory. I am cutting off the lower tab and fabbing L brackets like the ones in SWRNC Pete's video. Next stop hardware store for masonite.

I found pix of manual regulators such as GEO and Toyota Landcrusier, looks pretty simple. Then I ran across something about using plexiglass, and a knob with a knurled handle as seen in a Von Dutch book. What ever I do, I can't be having powered windows in a rat. Thanks again.

MARTINSR 04-10-2013 05:53 PM

One step at a time! Whooo Hoooo!

Brian


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