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Old 10-15-2002, 03:20 AM
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Well...

The poster made a mistake in what he read. He came back and apologized. I see no harm.

As long as the misinterpretation is corrected via discussion (friendly discussion), it serves the purpose of this board...to exchange information and learn.

I am an old fart and have learned much here without all the arguments and fighting you see on other boards (Thank God).

We don't need to bicker among ourselves but to try and present accurate information and help one another through service problems.

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[quote]Finally I stocked that Ford interchange book at the shop and when it came in I looked through it and pulled it because it is so full of errors, I even called the publisher and told them how crappy it was.<hr></blockquote>

I have also heard (have never seen) that this interchange book has a lot of mistakes. You have to take everything with a grain of salt.
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The easiest way to tell without having to measue or take anything apart is to look at the surface where the distributor mounts vs. the flange where the intake rests on. On a 302, those two surfaces are relatively flush. On a 351w, the intake flange is about one inch higher than the distributor mount surface.

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1. yes,it was a major screw up on MY part!
2. i was man enough to own up to it.
3. i took my lumps then for it & taking some again.
4. i deleted the misinformation to end any confusion.
5. the post is 3 months old,where were you perfect people(?) at then?
6. instead of the childish,asinine posts on this board,answer the questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7. since i made a mistake,i will take your advice & not post anything,even if i`m 100% sure of the answer. thank you for your time & understanding in this matter.
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[quote]Originally posted by FASTFORD:

<strong>1. yes,it was a major screw up on MY part!
2. i was man enough to own up to it.
3. i took my lumps then for it & taking some again.
4. i deleted the misinformation to end any confusion.
5. the post is 3 months old,where were you perfect people(?) at then?
6. instead of the childish,asinine posts on this board,answer the questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7. since i made a mistake,i will take your advice & not post anything,even if i`m 100% sure of the answer. thank you for your time & understanding in this matter.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well people, the man has apologized twice so far...are you going to ignore him or answer his qusetion?

I read his mistake and fully realized how he came about making it.
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Old 10-15-2002, 05:17 PM
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No big deal, no hard feelings OK!

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[quote]Originally posted by 4 Jaw Chuck:

<strong>No big deal, no hard feelings OK!

Lifes too short.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Well, I think FASTFORD feels it is a big deal.


[quote]Quepas00

You know I am sitting here reading this post again and it reminds me of other post that people give bad information to someone who is looking for a answer. This post is a good example of getting bad info. There is no way in the world that a 302 manifold will fit a 351 or visa versa.

Anyone that says differently is completly misinformed and should do a little research before they give advise. Any Ford hot rod book has the answer. If you don't know the answer don't post to the question, why confuse them they are asking us for help not, conflicting post..<hr></blockquote>

He did consult a FORD Hot Rod Book. That book is full of misinformation, but I guess the poster wasn't aware of the fact. He offerd information. He thought it was correct. He found it to be incorrect. He apologized. It would be nice if someone else also offered an apology.

I thought this was a community, but as usual...guessed wrong.

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Hey i got a 351w and this is a bit off topic but i need to know how to tell what year it is...im a bit clueless....any info is apreciated
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A real simple way to tell the difference between a 351 Windsor and a 289/302 is their is a raised boss on the front of the block. On a 351 Windsor their is a protruding boss from the distributor to the water pump, this raised boss is not on any 221,260,289,302,or 255.
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All the old FE(Ford/Edsel) engines and the 302 windsor used the same firing order; 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. The 351W has the alternate firing order stamped on the intake manifold. This is how I determine which it is without tearing down the engine. It has always worked for me. The 351W will run on 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. Just not as smooth. Please correct me if I'm wrong, and I will tear them apart for ID in the future.
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If you need to know what year it is, look on the under side of the block on the passenger side. There should be a casting number that starts like C4ae or something similar. C=60s D=70s E=80s F=90s The number after that tells you exactly what year its from. The rest of the casting number will tell you what kind of car its from.
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For kitkar-
The firing order is not a bad way for a quick check if you are sure the engine is 100% stock. I have installed performance cams into 351W that called for a 302 firing order. If you looked at that engine the firing order would tell you 302 when it's actually a 351W.

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YES, I put a crane cam in a 351 Windsor before (cam and lifters were used, so no install info). I set the firing order to what else....a 351 Windsor, it ran like crap, popping etc. This is where past experience was not helpful,but hurtful. I had rebuilt a 351 about a year earlier, and it popped through the intake. I isolated the culprit cyls. and loosened the rockers on the intake sides and it ran great. The rockers weren't adjustable, so I figured the machine shop didn't grind the stems when they did the valve job. Coming to find out, the springs are diff. lengths, longer on the intake side. I swapped them around and problem solved. After a little head scratching anyway . So back to the motor I was talking about. I thought this was the case with this motor too (heads were trade-ins from Bill's head exchange in Phx.). No dice, Bill's used springs that were all the same length (intake I figure). So I'm getting pi$$ed (working 60 hours a week plus this side job) and I look the cam up in the PAW book. It stated "cam uses pre '74 firing order" and told the firing order. I swapped the wires around, and viola, she ran great. I would have felt bad, but it ran great, and the guy was very pleased with it. Even though it was a week longer than I told him it would take. :o

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It's those little details that will kill ya!
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How true, how true!
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