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How do you make your own headliner??

I know I could get one from Kanter, but if it wern't to hard my Wife and Myself would like to try.. I have a 37 Ford Tudor. I have all of the bows Thanks.. Al

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Headliners from scratch can be frustrating, even for pro's. If you don't have the orig for a pattern. I would go for a pre made one.

I used to by Quality headliners from JC Whitney. I haven't for some years. But, if they still offer, the headliners are first rate. My 36 Hudson, 47 Ford and my 40 studie bave their liners. Fit like a glove!!
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After looking at how they are made.. I think I better look for a premade.. I see I should check out JCWhitney, I also found a place called WLS headliners.. Has anyone used one of there headliners before??
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If you know how to work fiberglass you can make a new style headliner. You wax your roof and lay up some glass then remove it and narrow it to fit inside,then just glue on some foam and the material of choice.You can even make designs in the foam before you cover it.
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If it were small like a 31 Coupe that might be fine, but with a 37 Tudor.. i would end up paying more for glass that what a cloth one premade would cost.. Thanks though..
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I know I could get one from Kanter, but if it wern't to hard my Wife and Myself would like to try.. I have a 37 Ford Tudor. I have all of the bows Thanks.. Al

BOBCRMAN is right, headliners from scratch can be very difficult, even if you've done it before.

The basic middle of the headliner is all rectangles between the bows until all the sections turn down at the edges. At that point you need to tailor the ends of the sections to take up the excess fabric.

The way to do it is to use some cheap disposable fabric to make the patterns for the sections and cut 7 foot long sections in rectangles 1" wider than the distance between the bows. Try to use fabric that doesn't stretch very much. Only sew in 1 1/2" listings in the middle of the headliner, about 4 ft.wide , up to the point the fabric turns down. Hang the headliner up on the roof making sure the bows are all straight up and down. Overlap the same amount of fabric from two sections and mark a curved line on each of the two sections. The fabric needs to curve in on both pieces. Take the "headliner" down and sew the pieces together. Keep adjusting until it fits correctly. This means opening up the ends, cutting out or adding to the fabric, re-sewing and constantly checking the fit until it's right. Once you have one side of the car done, take all the pieces apart, fold them over in half the long way and trace the one side to the other side. Do this for all the sections, and you have your headliner pattern. The sections at the rear between the back of the door and the rear window need to be left longer to build in the sail panels. Cut all the pieces out of the fabric you want to use from the patterns you made, and sew all the pieces together with a 1 1/2" (3" wide pieces folded in half) listing pocket. You don't need a listing at the front where it meets the windshield or the rear where it meets the rear window. Check out this thread:CLICK HERE and you can see what the patterns and pieces look like, and how to install the headliner.
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I've watched the guys in the factory install headliners and the pros sometimes get wrinkles and have to use a lot of steam to get them right. If one was available pre made I would buy it.
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If it were small like a 31 Coupe that might be fine, but with a 37 Tudor.. i would end up paying more for glass that what a cloth one premade would cost.. Thanks though..
You are right,but sometimes it is about customizing not saving money. But I understand because I am on a budget too. I just get a very good price on glass from a friend who builds boats for a living.Good Luck.
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I've watched the guys in the factory install headliners and the pros sometimes get wrinkles and have to use a lot of steam to get them right. If one was available pre made I would buy it.
That will work on the old style headliner material because it had cotton content in it that would allow it to shrink. You could shrink it just by misting it with water. Steam won't work on a vinyl headliner, or on nylon or polyester. All that happens is the headliner gets wet.

What I do if the old headliner is not available is to buy a cheap cloth headliner, take it apart, make patterns from it, and then make the new headliner from those patterns. It takes a lot less time for me to do it this way, and is actually less expensive for my customer.
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Has anyone ever used one of those WLS Headliners?? I went to there website. $103.95 to do my 37 Tudor.. has 6 panels that fit the bows. Just have to figure out what color to get.. I will do the doors, and the seats are Black. The carpet will also be Black. The car will be Elecrtric Blue Metalic. The trim rings around the dome lights are Blue. Would you go with Black there??, or go with one of the colors??
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Dan. What would a headliner cost from you??
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Dan. What would a headliner cost from you??
Send me a PM, and we'll talk about what you want to do.
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Dan. What would a headliner cost from you??
ROFLMAO........Hold on to your seat !!! Custom work by a professional isn't cheap... But, both Dan and myself get paid because the of quality of the finished job... Ask him how much money he lost (in labor) figuring out how to make them look that good... Buy a cheap headliner and use it for the pattern it will save you time and frustration, and when your done, you'll have some great stories about building it !
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Well if I were that good at sewing.. I would do it myself, but I am not.. I just asked.. If it is way to high for me.. I will then go with the one I can get threw that WLS Hedliners.. It says 6 panels.. Just not sure of the material??, or color to have..
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